Isn't that the Nerevarine? Or are both of these from Daggerfall? The Nerevarine is "Dragon-born and far-star-marked." Why two?

Dragon-born are the Septims... all the Emperors were Dragon-born, the Nerevarine is just Lord Indoril Nerevar reincarnated. I think i read somewhere that the Nerevarine was Dragon-born but that makes him a heir to the throne and if he is an heir to the throne he either died during the events of Oblivion or came back later to stake his claim which obviously would be impossible since the necklace was destroyed. Either way the Nerevarine is NOT the only dragon-born there were a lot of them.

I just hope we actually get to be the dragon-born, Oblivion was fine not being the emperors son but I want to be the super hero again like Morrowind.

When referring to the Nerevarine, to say the Nerevarine is Dragon-born is to say he hailed from the Empire. In the context of the prophecies it signifies that he is an outlander.

Well that's good to know... so it could mean something similar here then, doubtful but possible. But yea for him to actually be an heir to the throne would have made Oblivion sort of stupid so thanks for clearing that up for me I was starting to get mad about the whole plot of Oblivion.

Holy crap i just thought of how to train your dragon aha ahahahaha HAHAHAHA Skyrim is tainted in my mind as an awesome kids movie now XD

Thank you. So the hero of Skyrim will also be from the Empire?

He certainly looks Imperial. The armour he wears bears a striking resemblance to that of the Blades, as seen in Oblivion.

Hi there, M'aiq! And I only watched it once and wouldn't recognize the armor anyway, but that's good to know. Thanks!

I'm thinking it will have to do with Lord Tosh Raka, the Tiger Dragon. Given the masses of Akaviri symbols in the trailer, I'm guessing the hordes and forgotten/defeated enemies are the Akavir, probably the Tsaesci.

Unless someone at Beth decided that because the Akavir symbol is a dragon, Akavir is now dragon land. In which case I will likely call tarded when it comes out/I get confirmations.

Dragon born are NOT septims (exclusively, I mean, when using the word). Dragon Born means "agent of the empire", "born underneath the empire", or "having to do with the empire".

Nothing more, nothing less.

The Nerevarine was "dragon born" by being not of Morrowind, but of the Empire.

However, I do believe that this character in the trailer is indeed "Dragon Born" in the same way as Tiber Septim (related to the throne or the upper workings of the empire, or the founding of the empire).

Really, people should just leave out Dragon Born when talking about the Nerevarine. It isn't important because its just a description of where the Nerevarine came from. Nothing else.

So, in a way, Dragon Born can have multiple meanings, it just depends on who you're talking about. It's obvious the Nerevarine is not Dragon Born in the same way Tiber Septim is, or this character in the trailer.

The "Dragon Born" is a title given to Tiber Septim. That and the fact that he was of Nordic Ancestry makes it more likely that TES V has to do with him than with Nerevar.

Being the Emperor's son would make you the most unlikely elder scrolls hero. Most of the other heroes with the exception of the Nevarine, were unknown agents. Battlespire, Daggerfall, Arena and Oblivion all had heroes that were not celebrities. I prefer that idea, I don't want to be celebrity to start with, I want to see the character become a celebrity in the game.

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Going by what was said in the trailer ("there is one they fear; the Dragon-Born!") I'm guessing that Dragon-Born carries more significance here than simply meaning "affiliated with the Empire".

Dragon-born means one thing with respect to the Nerevarine, but another thing in any other respect. I can remember offhand at least one example of Baurus using Dragon Born to refer to the Septims' ability to see things in people, for instance. There's also the whole thing about Tiber and Ysmir, too.

Pretty sure I didn't say that it had anything to do with Nerevar or the Nerevarine, but thanks. And DarthRavanger answered it.

It seemed like it was a reference to a previous ES game, but I don't know what the reference could be. Maybe it was just something mentioned in lore somewhere, like dakorma said.

I thought the Dragon-Born were the Septims.

Confirmed: Baurus is the Dragon Born XD /jk
I do believe we will get to be the Dragon Born. That's a good thing since it brings the storyline closer to the same type that Morrowind's storyline was, and I think we can all agree we want to be super cool heroes of legend

Not necessarily. The teaser could very well be talking about something that occurred between the events of Oblivion and Skyrim.

I didn't say we would be the emperors son though did I? I just said I want to be the Dragon born which is apparently the hero in Skyrim. and even the Nerevarine was unknown in Morrowind when we were dropped off no one had any idea we would be the Nerevarine, its not hard to believe that we start out as just some lowly homeless person who eventually become the one known as Dragon born is it?

As mentioned above, Dragon Born in prophecy is a reference to an Imperial. My original question was why was the Nerevarine Dragon Born and the hero of Skyrim also Dragon Born. Answer is that in prophecies, it just means the person was born in Cyrodiil.


Wouldn't that be weird for Bethesda under the Todd Howard Regime though? They dropped hints about Oblivion in Bloodmoon, so it seems weird to pull something completely out of nowhere. Of course, there's probably not enough of the Todd Howard Regime to go on.

That's not what it means here, Monica.

It would be very kind of you to explain what you think it means then.

As I posted earlier: "Dragon-born means one thing with respect to the Nerevarine, but another thing in any other respect. I can remember offhand at least one example of Baurus using Dragon Born to refer to the Septims' ability to see things in people, for instance. There's also the whole thing about Tiber and Ysmir, too. "

The line in Morrowind meant only one thing: the Nerevarine was not born in Morrowind. That's all. The Dragon Born here is clearly something specific, and the only time we've seen the term used in a specific context (rather than in a generic sense, like in Morrowind) is when referring to Septims. It needn't be a Septim, of course (though I hope it is), but if not, it would be someone associated with Talos/Shezarr/Lorkhan/Ysmir/all that other fun stuff.

I already explained.

It's just an adjective when talking about someone who obviously WASN'T related to the throne. The Nerevarine is definitely not of lineage (considering the Nerevarine can be of an race and six). It's just describing that the Nerevarine was an outlander.

When describing a character like Tiber Septim, it means that they're part of the emperor lineage, and I would not doubt the same of this character in the trailer.

I apologize. I did miss your earlier post.

We're also talking about the term as it's used in prophecy. We have one example of that and it's a reference to one born in Cyrodill. And I really don't see how the Skyrim Dragon Born is any more specific than the Morrowind Dragon Born. "The Elder Scrolls foretold it" and "there is only one they fear" or something sounds a lot like prophecy. (Or a lot like "many fall but one remains" but less poetic.)

And I'm going to put this to bed, at least for me. I just had the question about why we've heard Dragon Born in two different games. I got my answer, or what I believe to be the answer, and I don't want to speculate further on a 30-second trailer.