Dragon Lore

Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:38 pm

Can anyone give me the full history on dragons or a link to a wiki or something? I really love dragon lore.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:21 pm

They fly very high in the sky. But when they come down to the ground, they turn invisible.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:08 pm

They fly very high in the sky. But when they come down to the ground, they turn invisible.


Supposedly I don't think they exist, or are either extinct or extremely rare, they are however the symbol of the Empire.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:10 pm

Supposedly I don't think they exist, or are either extinct or extremely rare, they are however the symbol of the Empire.


There are, reportedly, Dragons living in Akavir, possibly enslaved by the Tsaesci. Also there are Dragons living high in the mountains of Cyrodiil, protected by the Empire. This is what I have read on TIL. The Imperials view the Dragons as sacred (well, not quite sacred, but valued enough to be protected by law) and they are hidden well in the mountains.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:35 am

I believe dragon(s) also participated (by lore) into some battle Cyrodiil empire fought, can remember well which. Probably not at time of Tiber Septim but older... During times of Pelinal maybe?

Tiger-folk of Akavir is said to be transforming into dragon, one has succeeded. And i quess it's real dragon not "just" some CHIM-reference... Atleast what have been said about subject (which is not much) seems to point out to physical forms of dragon... Oh yeah same document, Mysterious Akavir, said that all dragons died on war between tigers and serpents.

Did Ysmir have physical form of Dragon? Vivec seems to suggest so, but i don't get he/she's gibbering that well... So could be that he didn't suggest that.

Martin.

So this far it seems like one becomes a dragon. But are (have) dragons also (been) specie, some sort of aedra?
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:51 pm

the leader of the akaviri dragons was Tosh-Raka. Probably a reference to Akatosh. If dragons exist, maybe they're just Akatosh showing his face, or perhaps he has descendants.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:08 am

there where several dragons that I can think of that have been seen or heard of. there are tosh - raka the leader of the tiger folk of akavir. Dragonne Papr? the dead dragon mount of Samar Starlover of which can be seen in the battlespire. Nafaalilargus the dragon that was part of tiber septims army and who was killed in stros m'kai by cyrus the redguard who you play as and fight against in redguard. you have the black dragons and red dragons of akavir all of which where killed off. there where dragonling in daggerfall which you could fight they where young dragons. the dragons of red mountain where driven off by the skylamp aka cliffracers in morrowind. then we also see another type of dragon like creature called a Wamasus, who live in black marsh, which are desribed as intelligent dragons with lightning for blood one of these creatures named Haynekhtnamet was slain and a tooth of the creature was made into a dagger called the fang of Haynekhtnamet. other references to dragons would be several artifacts the dragonbone cuirass which destription states "This cuirass is one of the greatest artifacts any collector or hero could own. It is constructed of real dragon bone and was enchanted by the first Imperial Battlemage, Zurin Arctus, in the early years of the Third Era", then you have the ward of akavir a sheild added by the seige at firemoth plug-in which was suposeibly made of real dragon skin. other things that mention dragons would be the story/legend of Lysirius from daggerfall even goldbrand the sword was originally thought to be made by dragons of the north that is until it has be claimed to be of deadric origin in oblivion. also one final mention of dragons would be obvious but akatosh's avatar would be one of a dragon. I think that covers almost everything dragon I might have missed something.

http://www.imperial-library.info/dfbooks/b037_lysirius.shtml (the story of lysirius)
http://www.imperial-library.info/bsbooks/starlover_log.shtml (starlover's log)
http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/tamrieliclore.shtml (Tamrielic Artifacts)
http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/mysterious_akavir.shtml (Mysterious Akavir)
http://www.imperial-library.info/tsorg/part11.shtml (redguard storyline with dragon)

edit: it is speculated that dragons live in the alik'r desert from daggerfalls manuel on dragonlings "The fairly common Dragonling is a worthy opponent for any adventurer. It is capable of casting a number of powerful spells and healing itself in combat. Those who speak their language tell us that beneath a veneer of maddening riddles and non sequiturs are minds of great wisdom. Despite all their merits, Dragonlings are less grand than their lineage would suggest. Explorers, Sages, and Archivists have argued for centuries over whether the great Dragons of legend still live, if in fact they ever existed. The people of the Alik'r Desert insist that their vast plain of sand is home to a multitude of the Great Wyrms. Granting the Nomads their propensity for tall tales, if there were a forsaken land where the great Dragons still fly undisturbed, it would indeed be the Alik'r Desert" another reference to a dragon I found would be in the inn on stro m'kai there is a dragon head but not sure if its real one final mention of little importance there is a dragon mural in battlespire. now thats all I found anything else?
http://www.imperial-library.info/bestiaries/bestiarybattlespire.shtml (battlespire bestiary look for section on dragons)
http://www.imperial-library.info/bestiaries/bestiaryredguard.shtml (redguard bestiary pictures of Nafaalilargus)

edit: there is also one fictional dragon I could find in the story of king edward
http://www.imperial-library.info/dfbooks/b100_complete_edward.shtml (king edward)
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:15 pm

    "Skylamps. They would actually be, moretheless, the Cliffracers. In short, the cliffracers came to Vvardenfell and pushed the dragons out. At one time, dragons flourished in Vvardenfell, being drawn to the comfort of the warmth in Red Mountain. The cliffracers grew in numbers (just as they appear to do in MW, since they seem to pop up behind you every 8 seconds). At first, this was not a problem for dragons. They were actually pretty good eating. But, just as a praying mantis is a big king of bugs, 1000 ants can easily take him. Thus, the dragons found themselves in a losing battle over the territory. Food sources and dwellings became overrun and the dragons simply packed their bags and moved on. The cliffracers plagued Red Mountain and in the end, drove the dragons out.

    Some say the dragons moved on closer to Cyrodil, where they gained shelter and security from the Empire, along with dragons from other parts of Tamriel. Dragons are very sacred to the Empire, and as long as the Empire protects the dragons, the dragons MUST offer services to the Empire, such as aiding and protecting the Imperial forces in war (Redguard, the fight for Stros M'kai).

    Just a little "in the know" for those who are curious about dragons. They DO exist, just not everywhere. Even in Cyrodil, where the majority of dragons may be, they are scarcely seen. Could it be they can shapeshift and use human form?
    http://www.imperial-library.info/dogate/es_weaseling.shtml

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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:40 pm

There are, reportedly, Dragons living in Akavir, possibly enslaved by the Tsaesci. Also there are Dragons living high in the mountains of Cyrodiil, protected by the Empire. This is what I have read on TIL. The Imperials view the Dragons as sacred (well, not quite sacred, but valued enough to be protected by law) and they are hidden well in the mountains.


First of all hopw do they hide so well! Second of all why does the Empire go to such great lengths to protect them? I mean you said they were not quite sacred, but valued enough to be protected by the law? Maybe they're used as a last resort weapon in warfare?
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:51 pm

First of all hopw do they hide so well! Second of all why does the Empire go to such great lengths to protect them? I mean you said they were not quite sacred, but valued enough to be protected by the law? Maybe they're used as a last resort weapon in warfare?

Read the post above yours...
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:39 am

Well, in Oblivion, I believe it was M'aiq The Liar who said "I have seen dragons. Perhaps one day you will see dragons too". Now, I know very little about TES lore, but from what I've heard, dragons are extinct on Nirn, except maybe for Akavir. However, I do believe that they are in Akavir, because if Beth were to ever set a game there, imagine how disappointed we'd all be if they just said "Hey, we made no promises. We said maybe".
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:30 pm

The concept that Dragons can shapeshift into smaller beings is not a unique one and is an idea I like a lot. You think you're talking to an old High Elven sorcerer named Krasus, but instead learn that he's an ancient dragon named Korialstrasz. It's an awesome thought.

And yes I know what I'm referencing with those names :P
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:54 am

Well, in Oblivion, I believe it was M'aiq The Liar who said "I have seen dragons. Perhaps one day you will see dragons too". Now, I know very little about TES lore, but from what I've heard, dragons are extinct on Nirn, except maybe for Akavir.

Did you read anything in this thread???
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:21 pm

Did you read anything in this thread???

Yes, but as I said, I'm only now trying to get a better understanding of TES lore, so I don't really understand a lot of what you guys are saying.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:38 pm

Yes, but as I said, I'm only now trying to get a better understanding of TES lore, so I don't really understand a lot of what you guys are saying.


Don't put any stock into what M'aiq says. He's not a reliable source of lore. He's mainly put in for amusemant.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:34 pm

Not only do you fight a dragon in Redguard, http://www.imperial-library.info/tsorg/part11.shtml#Nafaalilargus
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:37 am

Not only do you fight a dragon in Redguard, http://www.imperial-library.info/tsorg/part11.shtml#Nafaalilargus

Yeah, way to go Cyrus. Totally ruined it for the rest of us by killing it. <_<

:P
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:18 pm

Yes, but as I said, I'm only now trying to get a better understanding of TES lore, so I don't really understand a lot of what you guys are saying.



It's written in English..it's not hard to understand at all if you just read.

I realize this isn't twitter but a few paragraphs isn't that exhausting I promise.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:25 am

It's written in English..it's not hard to understand at all if you just read.

I realize this isn't twitter but a few paragraphs isn't that exhausting I promise.

For God's sake, I read it! I just don't know what you guys are on about. I don't know the different continents of Nirn or the different emperors of Tamriel, so it makes no sense to me. Now, can we drop it, and stop trying to expose me as someone just trying to get my post count up?
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:06 am

http://www.imperial-library.info/, the http://www.uesp.net/, or even http://www.google.com/ can provide all those answers and then some.
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:50 pm

For God's sake, I read it! I just don't know what you guys are on about. I don't know the different continents of Nirn or the different emperors of Tamriel, so it makes no sense to me. Now, can we drop it, and stop trying to expose me as someone just trying to get my post count up?

Wait...there's something wrong with trying to get your post count up? Heck I do it all the time. I'm not obvious, never!
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:25 am

Wait...there's something wrong with trying to get your post count up? Heck I do it all the time. I'm not obvious, never!


I don't even know where to look for my post count...
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:07 pm

I don't even know where to look for my post count...

Maybe the dragons know where to look?
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Post » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:57 pm

Not only do you fight a dragon in Redguard, http://www.imperial-library.info/tsorg/part11.shtml#Nafaalilargus

Stupid cyrus.

Coulda settled things in a calm way but nooooo, all he wanted was to kill the dragon.
Bastard.
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Post » Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:46 am

For God's sake, I read it! I just don't know what you guys are on about. I don't know the different continents of Nirn or the different emperors of Tamriel, so it makes no sense to me. Now, can we drop it, and stop trying to expose me as someone just trying to get my post count up?

If you want to know each Emperor's name, the year he/she died, and what they ate for breakfast, ask Verlox, who keeps these sources close at hand. If it makes you feel any better, I can't remember any dates from TES. The only year I know is 3E433.
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