I rather kill them. Now I typed it.

What you type about that.

Why would they be any more amusing than the "yes" responses with no more justification or reasoning than "Because it would be cool?" Do you suppose that's how they really feel, or...

Absolutely not. It's already been said that dragons aren't mere animals; they're sentient beings like the other races. It would be unfitting to ride one.

The potential irony is not lost on me. :wink_smile: However the sheer numbers against in the voted poll likely outnumber the amount of people actually posting to the topic. I posted a fairly valid reasoning behind why it could be in the game on post # 88. Personally, like I said there, I have no stake in this discussion and would accept it either way. The sheer vehemence however is astounding, almost as though they were asking if it would be alright to murder someone's family.

NO. Awful, awful idea. People voting yes should leave the forums right now and never come back, for the good of the game. Stop pumping BGS full of terrible ideas.

1) The map is far too small for dragon riding. It wouldn't be flattering for the game at all if you can wizz from one side to the other in seconds.
2) Dragons are supposed to be an intelligent race, not animals you can ride like a horse.

Well, I voted no, and I gave my reason, as did many others, but to reiterate, just to prove I am not following a mob mentality, the idea is cheesy, tacky, obviously panders to the lowest common denominator of 'that would be kool' rather than 'what would make sense', and to reinforce this point, I will point out once again, just for old times sake, the Dragons are your greatest enemy, be grateful if you find one that is willing to talk, instead of toasting you on sight. This is just my opinion,of course, but I honestly believe that if Bethesda let us ride dragons, because some people think it's cool, then their storytelling has reached an all time low.

Fair enough. One however, could also argue that dragons themselves are something of a cliche, yet Bethesda has managed to make it something their own. Who is to say they couldn't make riding work well if they wanted to? We know that dragons are the enemy here, we also know that there will be dragons throughout the game that do not share the feelings of their peers.

Obviously, it should not be something just tacked on for the sake of it, but only added if either the story calls for it, or if it will somehow enhance the game. If I had my way, riding a dragon would be a one time per playthrough only, extremely limited event that goes across a pre-planned flightpath, and for it to only be possible through a very obscure series of choices made by the player, in order for it to be truly special.

if anything, Dragon Riding should be the VERY LAST DLC in the game
but the last where you did everything there is too do in the game, which wont be for awhile

I don't have anything to say that hasn't been said already.
No.

Voting looks like a resounding "NO", yet I'll wager we see 31 more dragon-riding polls before launch.

Again, the map is too small for it.

Walking around on foot, Skyrim will feel big. Flying through the air, it'll feel tiny. So why on earth would Bethesda include something in the game which will be incredibly unflattering for the gameworld they've created? You see, when it comes to how big a gameworld feels, it's not just about square miles... it's about geographical features, and how quickly the player is able to move around the map. When you're scaling down a world for a game, you have to make the player feel like the world they're in is huge, even when it's not. A perfect example of this is Morrowind - Morrowind's gameworld was significantly smaller than Oblivion's, yet many people are under the illusion that it's about the same size, maybe even bigger, because of the way the map is designed and how long it takes to travel around. Now try and imagine how tiny Morrowind would seem if you fly from one end of the map to the other in less than 10 seconds.

I don't get why so many people have a hard time understanding this. :confused:

If Skyrim were 10 times the size it's going to me, maybe then and only then, flight would be a good idea. But even then, i'd rather not have dragons belittled as mounts.

Yeah, because everyone succumbs to peer pressure over the internet with people they don't know :rolleyes:

Are you trying to say that doesn't happen? No matter how one slices it, it's often perceived as being preferable to be on the supposedly winning side of an argument, whether you fully support it or not, just for the sake of appearing right rather than to be even slightly lambasted by others for having a different opinion, or none at all.

Now if the question was "would you like to ride a dragon in Daggerfall?", then the idea might still be a bit hackneyed, but at least it would be a worthwhile inclusion from a gameplay perspective.

@re123, you are right, you could say dragons themselves are a cliche, but at least their importance to the main plot is better than saying "lots of players said they want dragons, so we put some in at the end of dungeons."

The only game to have done it right is the original PC release of Drakan: Order of the Flame. And there they basically had -two- games mated; the on the ground 3rd person fight adventure a al Tomb Raider style, and the dragon flight and fight, which was more akin to a flight sim. It can be done, and done well. But it would force limits such as having a separate 'flying' game level map, with limited places where you could land. Also probably force you to spend most of your time at altitude, to keep the surface details small enough to not need a lot of work. Having this format of a dragon swoop low over a town full of AI operated townies would utterly kill any console you could name....(Mmmm...such a nice image)....and cause any decent computer to actually work hard. Technically do-able, not gonna happen with their current hardware fetish.

Then there is the fact that they would have to =break= the dragon AI to permit a rider to partially control it. As mentioned, these dragons are sentient. They know far more about flying and flight hazards than =ANY= biped in Tamriel. You don't start dinking around with a successful codebase on a lark.

THen there is the fact that to make it anywhere near the kind of experience you expect, they would have to have a seriously accurate physics model; processor power, rewriting the animation control system to deal with things like mountain turbulence, crosswinds, gravity, true intertia, etc. Not gonna happen.

Also you have to remember that a lighting model that works in dungeons would be useless in open air. There you would be dealing with at least a skydome (hopefully HDRI), clouds that would either have to be a layer, or actual geometry with some serious transparency and tranlucency abilitites. One general light source (Sun), but where those clouds are, -lots- of high efficiency reflectors. Refraction index usage so you get the kinds of rainbows you get flying around moisture laden clouds.

That's just a few reasons why it ain't gonna happen, and frankly at this stage can not happen, as it would require utterly rewriting the game engine.

How about "No", you crazy Dutch bastard!

"Riding dragons", enough with this WoW-inspired crap. Dragons are not some pack mules that you can just saddle up and ride away into the sunset with.

Maybe DLC where you jump on a dragon to slay it while it reigns terror on a city.
No to riding the dragons though.

In my opinion, Akatosh mount completely unbalanced the game. You could fly over the land in such little time, took all the fun out of exploring. And the mount was way overpowered. Dragon mounts don't work in a game like this.

Dragon riding shouldn't be in there it would break the game.

god, i loved that game

The thing with flying mounts is that you lose the sense of scale since you can just fly over everything. That huge church is just another building if you fly over it.

No
Just get over it already, people.

No we don't want to ride dragons because it doesn't fit in the elder scrolls universe.

So you mean completely ruin the explration experience, be able to notice how small the map really is and land on a pillar to shoot a bear from a spot he cant fight back from? I'll pass.

No, but horse armor dlc FTW