Dragon Riding in future DLC?

Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:44 am

Voting looks like a resounding "NO", yet I'll wager we see 31 more dragon-riding polls before launch.

31? well aren't you the optimistic one we will see far more than that i assure you dragon riding seems to be the new we want guns in skyrim topic.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:42 am

Riding dragons ?! :flamethrower: Ah, so childish !
I am glad that there is no crap like this in the game. Why not put mountable dragons in, romance relationships, and make peace with the dunmer and the argonians, and just rename the game to some of the other popular [censored]. It would save the emberasment of calling it a TES game :toughninja:
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:36 am

dragon riding doesn't seem to fit much in the lore.


dragon shapeshifting however, is supported by it.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:21 am

Yes I want to ride the magic dragon I you know what I mean ;)
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:50 pm

lore.

plus, this isn't WoW. it's TES, which has its own style, separate still from other games.


Please explain why having a dragon for a companion and a mount would break TES lore; also while you're at it, elaborate why adding dragon mounts would make TES transform into "WoW".
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:07 pm

Riding dragons ?! :flamethrower: Ah, so childish !
I am glad that there is no crap like this in the game. Why not put mountable dragons in, romance relationships, and make peace with the dunmer and the argonians, and just rename the game to some of the other popular [censored]. It would save the emberasment of calling it a TES game :toughninja:

Hey, now - this is a thread about dragon riding. The rest is off-topic :stare:

As for whether riding dragons is "childish", people wanted to ride the brahmin in Fallout 3, and that didn't seem unreasonable. Plus, a popular mod for Morrowind allowed the player to ride a dragon, so again, it's not without precedent.
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:55 pm

The thing with flying mounts is that you lose the sense of scale since you can just fly over everything. That huge church is just another building if you fly over it.


Not really. Only if you're the sort of person who would rather not be bothered with having the ability to fly.

No we don't want to ride dragons because it doesn't fit in the elder scrolls universe.


I don't see how riding dragons wouldn't fit into the TES universe. Skyrim brings changes to the TES world with the return of the dragons; changes including possible friendly and neutral dragons. Hmm, if not all the dragons will be hostile, that leaves room for other things such as possible dragon companion(s) and/or mount(s).

So you mean completely ruin the explration experience, be able to notice how small the map really is and land on a pillar to shoot a bear from a spot he cant fight back from? I'll pass.


Doesn't "ruin the explration experience" if done right. There are multiple ways at implementing this feature. One way could be to make it available only after completion of the main quest; the player should also undergo an OPTIONAL additional difficult quest-line to obtain such a reward/feature.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:04 am

"Let Bethesda know that we DON'T want to ride dragons!"

No. It would change the game so much that this wouldn't be TES:V anymore... plus, the idea is cheesy as Sheogorath. And doesn't make sense at all: they want to kill you, not party with you...

(You know, I find it difficult to imagine aerial mounted combat. It would be so stupid...)
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:38 am

"Let Bethesda know that we DON'T want to ride dragons!"

No. It would change the game so much that this wouldn't be TES:V anymore... plus, the idea is cheesy as Sheogorath. And doesn't make sense at all: they want to kill you, not party with you...

(You know, I find it difficult to imagine aerial mounted combat. It would be so stupid...)


Not all dragons are enemies, in which Bethesda is certainly tight-lip about.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:22 am

I wonder where people got the stupid and ridiculous idea to ride dragons in the first place. I mean... ride? Dragons?
First of all, why a flying mount? That wouldn't fit at all, would it? I'm all for limited levitation, but a flying mount would just not fit if the world is similar to Morrowind or Oblivion.
Secondly, they're dragons, not horses or donkeys. DRAGONS. They're big violent monsters, and the ones that aren't, are implied to be intelligent. It's like riding on a Khajiit.

Worst of all is that journalists tend to ask the question in interviews. What the hell? Do they really expect ridable dragons?
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:57 am

Not all dragons are enemies, in which Bethesda is certainly tight-lip about.


Yeo, but that doesn't mean that the non-enemy dragons would allow us to ride them.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:45 am

How about "No", you crazy Dutch bastard!

"Riding dragons", enough with this WoW-inspired crap. Dragons are not some pack mules that you can just saddle up and ride away into the sunset with.


What is this "WoW-inspired crap?" Dragon riding has been around long before Warcraft was ever even conceived, let alone World of Warcraft. It's a central part of one of my favorite world settings, Dragonlance.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:17 pm

I wonder where people got the stupid and ridiculous idea to ride dragons in the first place. I mean... ride? Dragons?
First of all, why a flying mount? That wouldn't fit at all, would it? I'm all for limited levitation, but a flying mount would just not fit if the world is similar to Morrowind or Oblivion.
Secondly, they're dragons, not horses or donkeys. DRAGONS. They're big vioent monsters, and the ones that aren't, are implied to be intelligent. It's like riding on a Khajiit.

Worst of all is that journalists tend to ask the question in interviews. What the hell? Did they really think that you could ride the dragons?



Sub-species Notes

The following details that information specific to each separate "breed" of Khajiit.

*snip*

Senche

The Senche is commonly employed by the other Khajiit breeds as a steed, assumedly by will. Roughly the same height as the average Altmer, with an average weight comparable to that of twenty Altmer.

Senche-raht

Larger and slower than the Senche, the Senche-raht are also possessed of a shorter body-span and straighter legs. The average Senche-raht stands as tall as two Altmer and can weigh more than fifty. Like the Senche, Senche-raht are also employed as steeds, notably in battle, whence they earned the title "battlecats" from Imperial troopers.

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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:03 am

I wonder where people got the stupid and ridiculous idea to ride dragons in the first place. I mean... ride? Dragons?
First of all, why a flying mount? That wouldn't fit at all, would it? I'm all for limited levitation, but a flying mount would just not fit if the world is similar to Morrowind or Oblivion.
Secondly, they're dragons, not horses or donkeys. DRAGONS. They're big violent monsters, and the ones that aren't, are implied to be intelligent. It's like riding on a Khajiit.

Worst of all is that journalists tend to ask the question in interviews. What the hell? Do they really expect dragons to be ridable?


This, for gods sake, we dont want to ride dragons! It doesnt fit, its stupid and I bet the Dragons find it darn discriminating to having themselves rode!

Also, you can ride Khajiits... Now, without checking the names I cant remember the exact name of the sub-race of Khajiit that was used as a mount, but I know that they have Khajiit-mounts. HOWEVER, I seriously doubt that they sell themselves out as mounts.

EDIT: Ninja′d. The guy above me got more info. Its also in The Novel.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:42 am

Why the smeg do people want to ride Dragons? I just don't see the appeal whatsoever.

Also, as stated there's plenty of reasons why this won't be in.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:24 am

Only if they make a furry one named Valcor.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:04 am

Having a dragon to ride would be awesome, or a place where there are Unicorns. If only! Cool thought anyway. :)
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:33 pm

Yeo, but that doesn't mean that the non-enemy dragons would allow us to ride them.


Doesn't necessarily mean non-enemy dragons possibly wouldn't mind you using them as a mount as well. Anyways, one reason I see that led to Bethesda not including dragon mounts or any flying mounts for Skyrim is because of the lack of open cities; this was a problem that was presented in Oblivion when players used mods that allowed them to fly. You can fly over the walls of a city and see no npcs inside.
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Post » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:28 pm

Doesn't necessarily mean non-enemy dragons possibly wouldn't mind you using them as a mount as well. Anyways, one reason I see that led to Bethesda not including dragon mounts or any flying mounts for Skyrim is because of the lack of open cities; this was a problem that was presented in Oblivion when players used mods that allowed them to fly. You can fly over the walls of a city and see no npcs inside.


Other thing is that it would change the game compepletely. Being able to fight on a dragon's back would be ultimately overpowered.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:03 am

Other thing is that it would change the game compepletely. Being able to fight on a dragon's back would be ultimately overpowered.



unlike dragon riding, dragon shapeshifting would be supported by lore and would be easier to balance if done like this:




in flight you'd be unable to block due to the fact that you were using your wings at the time.

ranged attacks would only be possible with dragon shouts.

as for melee attacks you use bites and talons, so no bonuses from equipment.

a time limit for this form as well (and a long cooldown) if you're high up in the air when this form runs out, well...let's just say you'd have a very minor case of death.



and to unlock this powerful form you'd first need to conquer an optional level 50 dungeon making it quite hard and almost impossible for low level players to acquire it.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:36 am

Other thing is that it would change the game compepletely. Being able to fight on a dragon's back would be ultimately overpowered.


Overpowered? Only if there were no limitations to having such a feature. There are many ways to tweak something into making it balanced, such as the suggestion I made in an earlier post.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:11 am

lore.

plus, this isn't WoW. it's TES, which has its own style, separate still from other games.


I LOVE when people on these forums think riding dragons is "against" the lore and they themselves don't know it.

Riding dragons is NOT against TES lore, it's in fact part of it. There are accounts of dragons helping people and also of a few of people riding them.


Dragons are intelligent beings, some are good, some are bad, etc. It is not "far fetched" or out of the world for a dragon to allow someone to ride them depending on the situation and who they are.

As far as balancing goes and thinking it be "overpowered" umm....no, it's something you could easily balance. Remember, you wouldn't be the only dragon in the sky. Look at a game like Drakan, one of the few games where you ride around on a dragon (and dismount/fight on foot whenever you want). It worked fine in that and was balanced.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:07 am

i DON'T want to ride a dragon. simple as that.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:42 pm

I LOVE when people on these forums think riding dragons is "against" the lore and they themselves don't know it.

Riding dragons is NOT against TES lore, it's in fact part of it. There are accounts of dragons helping people and also of a few of people riding them.


Dragons are intelligent beings, some are good, some are bad, etc. It is not "far fetched" or out of the world for a dragon to allow someone to ride them depending on the situation and who they are.

As far as balancing goes and thinking it be "overpowered" umm....no, it's something you could easily balance. Remember, you wouldn't be the only dragon in the sky. Look at a game like Drakan, one of the few games where you ride around on a dragon (and dismount/fight on foot whenever you want). It worked fine in that and was balanced.


Yea I agree. Some people seem to believe all dragons in TES = evil and only out to kill everything; this is even after Bethesda already stated that not all dragons are bad/hostile. Not only are dragons in TES intelligent, they were also believed to be capable of shapeshifting to hide their true forms. Some people here keep saying that dragon mounts won't fit TES lore and blah blah yet can't provide any logical reasons or evidence to support their claims.
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Post » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:11 am

I have to say, the number of NO responses without any form of real justification or reasoning amuses me to no end. I have to wonder, is that how people really feel, or are they being controlled by the typical mob mentality inherent in places like private forums. :celebration:


you have definitely got a point haha
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