hoping for a dragon shapeshifting shout

(dragons in elder scrolls lore are rumored to be able to shapeshift in order to disguise themselves, rosh taks is also rumored to have succeeded in transforming into a dragon)

Yeah, I think this is pretty much the only way we would be able to beat the world eater. We would have to learn the shout to turn into a dragon. But I bet it will be the hardest one to learn and you would need to have learned most of the others before this one.

I think dragon shouts will be a powerful part of the game. We know there will be 20 such shouts, but we only have unconfirmed reports on only 3 types: Slow time, call Dragon, and 'force push'.

4 So far.

Push
Call Dragon
Slow Time
Teleport

hoping for a dragon shapeshifting shout

(dragons in elder scrolls lore are rumored to be able to shapeshift in order to disguise themselves, rosh taka is also rumored to have succeeded in transforming into a dragon)

Yeah, I think this is pretty much the only way we would be able to beat the world eater. We would have to learn the shout to turn into a dragon. But I bet it will be the hardest one to learn and you would need to have learned most of the others before this one.

Thu'um is an ability expressable only by nords as far as lore goes

So how can all the races still be playable?

I would assume the Greybeards will break the rules and teach an outsider in this time of world crises... I guess Bethesda's answer will hold more water.

I would assume the Greybeards will break the rules and teach an outsider in this time of world crises... I guess Bethesda's answer will hold more water.

Are Tiber Septim a nord ?

Nords aren't the only ones who can use Thu'um

Pull shout

I thought they were?

Until I see lorecthat states that, I'm not buying it.

The only reason the voice is practiced in Skyrim is because of the Greybeards, nothing to do with Nords being special.

Until I see lorecthat states that, I'm not buying it.

The only reason the voice is practiced in Skyrim is because of the Greybeards, nothing to do with Nords being special.

A lot of people are under the wrong assumption then. Myself included. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Ok so now that we are studied up and clear on TES lore and who can use Thu'ums :read: , I've got another shout suggestion on topic:)

6. Concusion Shout: disorients enemy for 5 seconds or 10 seconds.

(Lore:Thu'um)



A long practiced spiritual form of Nordic magic, also known as the Tongues, that is based on their worship of the Wind as a personification of Kynareth. Through the use of the Voice the power of a Nord can be formed into a thu'um, or shout - which has a large variety of applications (anything from sharpening blades to a long range weapon). Master Voices (known simply as Tongues) have legendary, and often unbelievable powers, including talking to people of hundreds of miles away or teleportation. The most powerful masters must even be careful whenever they speak, as their voice can cause great destruction and they are commonly gagged.

During the Conquest of Morrowind, the Nordic war chiefs were also Tongues (Derek the Tall, Jorg Helmborg, Hoag Merkiller). They needed no typical siege weapons when attacking a city as they merely used the Voice to break down the city gate and allow their armies to storm in. The future of the Tongues was forever changed by the most powerful Tongue, Jurgen Windcaller, also better known as the Calm. Jurgen converted to a pacifist and refused to use the Voice for any martial purposes. In a confrontation with 17 other tongues he reportedly swallowed the Shouts of the 17 for three days until they lay exhausted, later to become his followers.

Today, all Tongues live secluded lives on the highest peaks of Skyrim in tough conditions and contemplation, and have only spoken to announce the destiny of the great Tiber Septim (who later created an Imperial College of the Voice in Markarth, returning the Voice to the art of warfare).


General Talos had studied in Skyrim, and used the thu'um. He could rout armies with his battle-cry and shout lesser men off their feet (.......)The Nords that had come to cripple the Empire soon joined the General's forces, for when they heard his thu'um they realized he was Skyrim's Son and the Heir to the Empires of Men.

Those known as Dovahkiin, Dragonborn, can use a type of magic known as "Dragon Shouts." Dragon shouts are spoken in the Dragon Language, and can manipulate dragons in a variety of unknown ways, as well as performing other kinds of magic, also undocumented.

Ulrorn introduced a friend of his by the name of Svontilda who has made a study of the thu'um. Svontilda is a boisterous Nord and quite a character. She had no trouble holding the full attention of the LAHS, especially after promising not just a discussion of the thu'um, but an actual demonstration!

The general sense of Svontilda's speech is that a "thu'um" is a concentrated shout that can break things, move objects, and (at least in legend) sharpen blades, slay foes at a distance, and various seemingly magical deeds. The practice of the thu'um is called "The Way of the Voice," and those who use it are called "Tongues." Svontilda believes the Way of the Voice originally came from Atmora, and that at least some of the legends about it are accurate, though much of the knowledge of the thu'um is now lost. True to her word, Svontilda breaks mugs from across the room, flips the pages of a book without touching it, makes Gondry's drawn sword ring as if struck, and knocks over a chair. Svontilda insists that she has only a basic understanding of the thu'um, and that a true master, even though much knowledge has been lost, can do much more.

After the impressive demonstration, most of the questions naturally involve how to perform a thu'um, but Svontilda says that (ironically) the Way of the Voice cannot be described in words. Learning to make a thu'um requires extensive training and practice, and there is no simple "trick" to it.

Jo'Hamiir seems particularly intrigued by the demonstration and asks if anyone can learn the thu'um or if it is something only Nords (and Atmorans, if any survive) can do. Svontilda does not know, as she's never seen anyone other than a Nord trained in the thu'um. She speculates that anyone could learn to do it, and while it would be unusual for a Tongue to take an apprentice who is not a Nord, she does not know of any traditions that would prevent it. (and yet none have so far)

Dhavin speculates that the thu'um may not be entirely natural. He lists several well-known accounts linking magic with music or song, and he suggests that when one learns the thu'um, one is actually learning a specialized kind of magic. Svontilda seems upset at this notion, and insists that the thu'um is entirely non-magical. However, when pressed, she cannot think of any reason why magic could not explain it. Dhavin asks if anyone born under the Atronach has learned the thu'um (which might suggest a non-magical nature), but Svontilda does not know the answer (she was born under the Thief, and her father, who taught her the thu'um was born under the Tower).

Varinturco has some rather harsh criticisms of Svontilda's demonstration and even accuses her of trickery (of so-called "stage" magic, the kind of tricks sometimes used in lower class theaters that cannot afford Mages Guild fees). He claims that the demonstrated effects of the thu'um could have been done with magic or trickery, especially if she had an accomplice in the LAHS (for instance, someone else pushed the chair over or cast a telekenesis spell while everyone was looking at her). Svontilda offers to demonstrate again under whatever restrictions Varinturco deems necessary, but the Altmer claims that nothing will be necessary, as he already knows it is trickery.

Dhavin and I apologize to Svontilda for the Altmer's unfortunate attitude, and she is gracious enough to accept. Unfortunately, as no one has any further questions, Svontilda's presentation ends with these (surely baseless!) accusations.