Dragon Wing Tweak

Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:47 am

Personally if it can breathe fire at you, eat you, has more teeth than you, and is faster than you...
then I couldnt care less what it looked like lol!
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Marina Leigh
 
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:02 am

The added realism of the creature would halt the hindrance of my suspension of disbelief. A more believable terror is always more effective.

If the skin was flexible, it would not tear. Thank you for the feedback!

Your welcome :thumbsup:
They have worked on dragons for two years....don't you think they would have done what you have if it was really needed?
And i really meant thanks for your effort. :)
I just prefer the original one....is all.....each to their own.
I trust bethesda....two years is a long time.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:58 am

Find this a really hard decision to make since I did not realise they even existed till a couple months back. Plus, dragons can breathe fire which does imply some form of magical compentance.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:17 am

Your welcome :thumbsup:
They have worked on dragons for two years....don't you think they would have done what you have if it was really needed?
And i really meant thanks for your effort. :)
I just prefer the original one....is all.....each to their own.
I trust bethesda....two years is a long time.

I think they look fiercer as is, so I'm with this guy. :toughninja:
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:24 am

Dragons fly by their language in TES. The wings are for stability.

So they are levitating?
How about Dovahkiin, can Dragon Born also use they skills for levitation?
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Post » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:23 pm

After reading Sleign's post I have to say the dragons do look a lot more appealing to me. That's what I love about the Elder Scrolls, they take something as cliche as dragons and what not and they really make it their own, the very fact that dragons use magic to talk and fly is amazing really gives me that feeling that these dragons are different to any other dragons we see else where, another example of making something their own are were-beasts, and of course the Elves/Mer.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:57 am

Top, because it's not a generic dragon.
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Post » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:30 pm

Find this a really hard decision to make since I did not realise they even existed till a couple months back. Plus, dragons can breathe fire which does imply some form of magical compentance.


Yes, I think that magic would play a large role in their ability to fly, but if the wings don't do anything, why even have them?
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Christina Trayler
 
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:06 am

top one looks cooler, i dont care if its not "realistic" or "the norm", its a dragon for ysmir's sake.
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Post » Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:48 pm

I think the top one looks scrawny and stupid, but I think I'll enjoy slaughtering them either way.
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Sarah Edmunds
 
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:40 am

At first I said bottom but when I read the lore passage I vote top since it's explained in universe.
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Vera Maslar
 
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:46 am

Agreed.
It should go down even further and be connected to their hip.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:31 am

Even though it's explained through the lore I like your change anyway because I find it more aesthetically pleasing. Just because the lore explains it that way doesn't mean they can't change it to look better.
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Post » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:36 pm

Gotta say, I thought about it too the first time I saw the trailer. It looked like it was missing it's full wings, and it's especially noticeable during the fight scenes. I think they'd just look better with the full wing. I mean, the way I think about it is this...if you've ever seen a bat, or even any bird, let alone the design of flying dinos, it's fairly obvious how wing design works for all creatures of those types in nature. Then you have the huge exception - insects. They have all kinds of varied wings, and they're usually too small for the bug. My point is this, would you rather see dragons that look like they are natural, flying creatures, or like big scaly dragonflys?

I don't think Bethesda will change them after that trailer, but I think at least variation between dragon types in-game would be for the best aesthetically, and for the lore.
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Post » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:27 pm

Meh


This.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:27 am

The dragons are fine.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:39 am

When I was watching the footage of a dragon flying, I thought something was off.

To me, the dragon's legs appear disproportionately huge and the wings seemed too frail to support its flight. [b]This is not good because, if I don't believe the dragon is real-looking, or think it looks scrawny, it won't scare me[/b]. At the moment, it doesn't scare me because it looks weak.

So I tweaked it a bit, and my question for you is, which one would you prefer in-game?
[img]http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt10/NealKenneth/DragonComparison.jpg[/img]


Did anyone ever actually give you a picture of a REAL dragon? If so, congrats, your the first in the history of mankind.
I think Bethesda should do their own thing with the bodies of dragons, and not the stereotype look.
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Post » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:48 pm

Really does not bother me. + being a fine arts major, and having to study atotamy for my drawing course i see that if it was connecting like that it would sag and fold and drag around when the dragon is not using the wings. At least the way you shaped it. If it was there but just got narrower rather then so broad like yours perhaps it would be more intimidating.

Basicly: your way when the dragon folds wings. TONS of "dead weight" flopping around causing graphics problems. and cutting into other objects.

Edit: even birds and bats wings narrow off rather then attach all the way down...
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:37 am

This isn't a matter of personal preference ("Which one looks better?") It's wrong.. In rl, the dragon wouldn't be able to fly. At all. it MUST have the skin attach to it's body, and it would still manipulate it's appendages well. Like i said, it'd be like holding a paper sheet in both hands and trying to fly. It doesn't matter if it would be able to move better, it still must have the wings connected. It won't work otherwise, and would look silly.
Even look at this http://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/Bat_vs_Bird_wing.gif of a bird and a bat wing. They connect to the body. The wing doesn't just end at the elbow. If it did, it would just be a flapping mass of unused tissue
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:31 am

This isn't a matter of personal preference ("Which one looks better?") It's wrong.. In rl, the dragon wouldn't be able to fly. At all. it MUST have the skin attach to it's body, and it would still manipulate it's appendages well. Like i said, it'd be like holding a paper sheet in both hands and trying to fly. It doesn't matter if it would be able to move better, it still must have the wings connected. It won't work otherwise, and would look silly.
Even look at this http://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/Bat_vs_Bird_wing.gif of a bird and a bat wing. They connect to the body. The wing doesn't just end at the elbow. If it did, it would just be a flapping mass of unused tissue

In RI life this dragon exceeds the mass to wing ratio to allow lift. (Unless it climbed a mountain and jumped off, even then that is not flight, its gliding) That dragon would need wings at least two times their current length and much wider to achieve lift from a set position. Clearly their flight is magical, like (to remind you) their very being.

The correct response is "meh"
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:52 am

I do prefer the dragon on the bottom with the attatched skin. Although I don't think it is a major problem and it may possibly be modded. I do find the people funny who say they prefer it because it is not a stereotypical dragon, despite there being many different versions of dragons throughout history with this exact same design existing in the past as well except for the maybe flying with a language thing.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:04 am

it would be attacted to the dragon's body at the armpit area... if you study the anatomy of flying animals they do not mount to the body they die off just before the body.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:52 am

Moderator comment: If all you have to add to a thread is "meh", don't post. :stare: That's just pointless and spammy.

Member comment: about the wing attachment/look - uhm... don't really care. Sorry. They looked cool in the video, the animations look pretty damn good. That makes me happy.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:58 am

Who is to say there is only one "species" of dragon?
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:48 am

Moderator comment: If all you have to add to a thread is "meh", don't post. :stare: That's just pointless and spammy.

Member comment: about the wing attachment/look - uhm... don't really care. Sorry. They looked cool in the video, the animations look pretty damn good. That makes me happy.


Not to be rude, but isn't that long sentense basically saying...meh? :P

I'm meh myself. Dragons are basically the calmination of all our primal fears. That's why so many civilizations came up with them around the same time, dispite them being...well, not real and the civilizations being separated by oceans. We fear birds because they can fly and we can't, lizards because of the poisons they carry and how tough they can be with scales, fire because it was a phenomina that wasn't very well understood...and quite dangerous, bigger and stronger things than us for obvious reasons, and things that are just as smart or smarter than us. Put those things together and ya get a dragon. However, you can put those things together in different ways, be there big wings on it or none at all. A dragon's look is left up to the imagination, because that's where they came from in the first place.

Does it matter if they couldn't fly in our world because their body build up is wrong? Nirn could be different, we don't know. The star's are really holes that were flipping ripped in the black sky, anything is possible.

So in other words....meh.
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