Dragonplate vs Dadric armor

Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:18 am

Just because something takes more skill to make doesn't mean it should be better or more powerful. In real life it's a lot harder and more expensive to braze weld with a brass flux rod than it is to mig weld something together, yet mig welding is stronger and cheaper and takes less skill to perform.

I think they simply didn't want to break the lore that daedric armor is the best so dragon armor isn't quite as strong. Maybe it's lighter? I haven't got that far yet.
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Ryan Lutz
 
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:43 am

The difference between the two main armor pieces for me was literally 4 AR points. And the Dragonplate weighed less.

I decided I'd wear the Daedric anyway, because it looked slightly cooler. I think both of the sets (if you have the Silver-blood Family Ring equipped) stand right on the armor cap line, so Dragonplate is TECHNICALLY better, because it weighs less, and still reaches the armor cap.


The difference between the two main armor pieces for me was literally 4 AR points. And the Dragonplate weighed less.

I decided I'd wear the Daedric anyway, because it looked slightly cooler. I think both of the sets (if you have the Silver-blood Family Ring equipped) stand right on the armor cap line, so Dragonplate is TECHNICALLY better, because it weighs less, and still reaches the armor cap.


And the Dragonplate weighed less.


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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:20 pm

Dragonplate weighs 20% less (or more for the other pieces), while providing 94% (or more) the same protection as Daedric... this is why it takes 100

Dragonplate is for mobility


Doesn't metter, the mobility is same people have tested this, you move exactly the same , daedric is better that is why it should be 100, the wight difference is small plus the daedric armor looks much much better than the dragon armor wich looks way more ugly than the daedric ( plus there is a mod to make the daedric helment eyes glow red)
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:12 am

Dragon smithing unlocks two different high tier armor recipes, one of which is the best (craftable) light armor in the game, if I'm not mistaken. That would be why it requires more skill points than Daedric smithing.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:30 am

In my game, Legendary Daedric Armor is one point weaker than a Legendary Dragonplate Armor.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:28 pm

Does one weigh less? If Daedric weighs less I see absolutely no reason why to choose Dragon Plate over Daedric. Unless one looks cooler then the other.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:11 am

Does one weigh less? If Daedric weighs less I see absolutely no reason why to choose Dragon Plate over Daedric. Unless one looks cooler then the other.


Yes dragon plate weights less but daedric armor looks much better and gives more protection, now i dunno wich armor i should use...
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:32 am

The dragon plate armor does look kinda weak to me, plus it doesn't really look metallic imo. Doesn't matter anyways Ebony Armor looks the best XD
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:22 am

Dragonplate is lighter, that's about the only difference between the two plus or minus a few AR rating here or there. At the level you get either armors, the difference in AR is so small that they might as well be equal.

Bascially, you get dragonplate if you think it looks cooler than Daedric. Or you get Daedric if you want to look like an evil bad ass.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:53 am

Which one looks the best is personal opinion.
I like the look of the dagonplate, without the helm....I mean the helm just looks fugly as can be in my opinion, but others might like it.

As has been said it was done due to perk placement, also the dragonplate weighs less than Deadric, if thats a factor for somebody.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:04 am

cause getting dragon stuff is much easier then finding daedric hearts and ebony ingots...


I hope this is sarcasm. You will usually have enough dragon materials already to make what you need by the time you reach the skill, but it's extremely easy to get enough Ebony for an entire set of gear, including two swords from a single mine. The hearts are also extremely easy to get, and are sold for ~900g at the Mage's College.

The reason to even hit 100 in Smithing is because your smithing level does affect how much of an upgrade you get when you upgrade a piece of gear.

Another thing, is, it doesn't matter what armor you are wearing. Even scale armor will cap you out once you have 100 in the appropriate armor proficiency. Nothing beyond 580 AR does anything at all, because it's the cap. So wear whatever armor you think looks the coolest.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:32 am

By the time I got my Dragonplate Armor I was already past the 567 armor limit with it due to perks in heavy armor. For me putting on Daedric Armor would only be a downgrade as it would slow me down while providing no more armor at all. And I'm saying over 567 without a shield, add a shield and you'll be pushing 700, which is just redundant as that extra armor doesn't help any.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:20 am

By the time I got my Dragonplate Armor I was already past the 567 armor limit with it due to perks in heavy armor. For me putting on Daedric Armor would only be a downgrade as it would slow me down while providing no more armor at all. And I'm saying over 567 without a shield, add a shield and you'll be pushing 700, which is just redundant as that extra armor doesn't help any.


Blocking reduces damage further than the 80% cap. So shields are not useless for that, just for the added AR.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:52 am

Ok here it is :

Daedric Armor Legendary - 414 armor
Dragonplate Legenday - 396 armor

So 8 armor difference , yes its not a lot but it still is something plus the daedric armor looks better.
The dragonplate is lighter but you still run the same speed and sprint the same speed, so i guess i should still wear daedric?

Btw here are 2 mods for each armor to make them look better:

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=209

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1446
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:53 am

Doesn't metter, the mobility is same people have tested this, you move exactly the same , daedric is better that is why it should be 100, the wight difference is small plus the daedric armor looks much much better than the dragon armor wich looks way more ugly than the daedric ( plus there is a mod to make the daedric helment eyes glow red)


Weighing less means carrying more. They are both heavy armor so of course mobility is the same.

Also the dragonplate helm looks better than the daedric one.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:32 am

Its about the looks.

Ebony/Daedric/Dragon all hit the AR cap if you have heavy armor skill.

If you wanna wear something that looks like dragon armor you'll need 100 smithing, at that point its not even about stats.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:19 am

I prefer the less weight of dragonplate to daedric. plus its easier to find bones at level 20 than deadric hearts and ebony. Both sets will easily put me past the armor cap, so dragon wins.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:55 am

legendary nightingale armor is only 10 pts under legendary daedric armor.

I mix the nightingale boots and gauntlets with dadric shield helmet and armor.

My daedric sword does 185 after buffs.

But im a light armor char.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:56 am

The reason Dragon smithing is the top perk is because it allows you to make armor for both the light and heavy tiers. If Daedric were higher, Dragon wouldn't be able to be connected to either tier. The only solution would have been for them to do something similar to how they did the enchanted smithing perk and placed the Dragon perk somewhere in the middle, but at a lower level.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:32 pm

Weighing less means carrying more. They are both heavy armor so of course mobility is the same.

Also the dragonplate helm looks better than the daedric one.


Oh i hoped you would have said weight has something to do with movement, now there is absolutely no need to wear dragon armor, btw i can carry 99999 weight via console command, yeah i don't feel like going and selling stuff 24/7 fun so i use mod so i can explore more and not worry about how much i carry .
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:05 am

Ok here it is :

Daedric Armor Legendary - 404 armor
Dragonplate Legenday - 396 armor

So 8 armor difference , yes its not a lot but it still is something plus the daedric armor looks better.
The dragonplate is lighter but you still run the same speed and sprint the same speed, so i guess i should still wear daedric?

Btw here are 2 mods for each armor to make them look better:

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=209

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1446

You did your math wrong. 396 + 8 = 404

Or if you did mean 414 for Daedric, then it is 396 + 18 = 414

So you either meant Legendary Daedric is 404 or it's a difference of 18. Your move, kid.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:07 am


You did your math wrong. 396 + 8 = 404

Or if you did mean 414 for Daedric, then it is 396 + 18 = 414

So you either meant Legendary Daedric is 404 or it's a difference of 18. Your move, kid.


414, my mistake, its 18 difference.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:47 am

Ok so daedric armor takes 90 smiting skill to make it while the dragon armor takes 100 and the dragonplate armor is weaker, now how can a top tier armor that requires 100 skill to make to be weaker than daedric that takes 90 skill, and don't tell me its because the dragon armor is easier to make because you can buy ebony ignots and you can go to areas where daedra creatures keep respawning non stop , and get their hearts, plus you can even buy daedra hearts so you can make daedric armor in no time, anyone help me understand this?

Dragonarmor-perk allows you to build two kind of armors: Dragonscale and Dragonplate.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:25 am

Why does everyone keep bringing up weight? Isn't there a heavy armor perk that makes this a non-issue? A perk that makes heavy armor "weigh nothing?"
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:33 am

Why does everyone keep bringing up weight? Isn't there a heavy armor perk that makes this a non-issue? A perk that makes heavy armor "weigh nothing?"



Yeap, basically comes down to which ever piece of gear you think looks more badass. I personally kick around [censored] in my ballin' ebony plated battle gear!
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