Dragons and how they should be.

Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:06 am

Dragons - The way they will be made will make the difference and impact ingame.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:38 am

dragons do need to level up with you, but not down, it should never get easy to kill them, they are your main enemy after all
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:09 am

I dont think dragons should be just another encounter, therefor I want them to be powerful and rare.
Also- I want dragon killing to be something ill have to work for, it will be more satisfying that way. So id like to kill an advlt dragon at least when im 40 or above


dragons do need to level up with you, but not down, it should never get easy to kill them, they are your main enemy after all


I'd like to be more powerful than a dragon at some moment ingame. Otherwise ill feel like leveling was useless as it should've be :P
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:41 am

Makes me happy my 3 votes are winning choices at the time of posting this that is a good sign
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:18 am

Basically, you described level scaling, which I do not want. I want to be able to find on in a cave at level 2 and get my ass handed to me, that way I can avoid that cave and wait till I am of significant level to kill that dragon, that way your kill feels much, much more earned. I would like them to appear more as the main quest progresses, not dependent on how much time or what level I am. I could have never even touched the main quest, I could have spent my time chopping wood in a town, moved to a city and got a job, then all of a sudden my city is swarmed by dragons, because of me, for no apparent reason.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:04 am

I voted from the first level, because we are probably going to see a dragon very early in the game. This is reflected in the trailer, when we see the Dragon Born running away from the dragon, not trying to fight it until he has no where else to go and he has no choice.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:02 am

I voted from the first level, because we are probably going to see a dragon very early in the game. This is reflected in the trailer, when we see the Dragon Born running away from the dragon, not trying to fight it until he has no where else to go and he has no choice.

Meh I dont see how it has anything to do with being able to kill a dragon from the first level
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:38 pm

Meh I dont see how it has anything to do with being able to kill a dragon from the first level


You are the dragon born, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the whole point of the dragon born being so important is that he is pretty much the only one that can stop the dragons? I have a feeling that that is going to be introduced to you very early in the main quest. And I don't necessarily mean from the first level, I am just talking play-time-wise you are probably going to see them early on, and definitely before levels 10 and above.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:33 pm

You are the dragon born, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the whole point of the dragon born being so important is that he is pretty much the only one that can stop the dragons? I have a feeling that that is going to be introduced to you very early in the main quest. And I don't necessarily mean from the first level, I am just talking play-time-wise you are probably going to see them early on, and definitely before levels 10 and above.

Still, being able to just open up the game and start slaying dragons makes it a big "Meh". I bet ill see them at lvl 10, but not an advlt dragon, i heard there are little ones.

Even as dragonborn, I dont want the main thing in game to be available in such an early point, it will make everything boring pretty soon after.

I do agree that as dragonborn i should have an advantage against dragons, but not a huge one.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:53 pm

Still, being able to just open up the game and start slaying dragons makes it a big "Meh". I bet ill see them at lvl 10, but not an advlt dragon, i heard there are little ones.

Even as dragonborn, I dont want the main thing in game to be available in such an early point, it will make everything boring pretty soon after.

I do agree that as dragonborn i should have an advantage against dragons, but not a huge one.


Well, I kind of equate dragons to Oblivion gates (which got boring quickly), and you could shut the first Oblivion gate within the first 30 minutes of Oblivion and at level one.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:00 pm

Yep and i hated it. didnt you?
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:39 am

Yep and i hated it. didnt you?


Yeah. Oh is this thread about our opinion? I thought it was how do you think they will be, not how do you want them to be. :tongue:
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:12 am

hahaha. its about how they SHOULD be :P we are no oracles ;)
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:45 am

i voted that they should be completely independent of player level. only killable by level 50 character (dont need all of the dragon shouts or the best gear but it at least very good gear), but if there is help around like some guards then they could be killable to by someone of a lower level, like someone who is level 49. :) they should be extremely rare.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:21 am

Also- I want dragon killing to be something ill have to work for, it will be more satisfying that way. So id like to kill an advlt dragon at least when im 40 or above

I'm pretty sure we'll be killing advlt dragons way before level 40.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:03 am

I think they should always be fightable (even before you find out you are dragonborn, which has been confirmed to be something your character doesn't know right away), they should either have static levels or do the same scaling the dungeons will (based on your level but only withing a certain range), and you just don't actually learn any of the Dragonshouts from killing them until after you get to the point of the MQ where you find out you are dragonborn.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:56 am

i think dragons should be considered the boss monsters so you should be afraid at least a little when u fight one. thats why i voted to have their lvl depend on yours.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:22 pm

i voted that they should be completely independent of player level. only killable by level 50 character (dont need all of the dragon shouts or the best gear but it at least very good gear), but if there is help around like some guards then they could be killable to by someone of a lower level, like someone who is level 49. :) they should be extremely rare.


They are definitely not like this nor should they be. Besides, that doesn't even make any sense. You say you shouldn't need all of the dragon shouts to kill one, but at least very good gear. You get dragon shouts from dragons, so something that is a main feature in this game won't be available until level 50? :facepalm:
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:46 am

They are definitely not like this nor should they be. Besides, that doesn't even make any sense. You say you shouldn't need all of the dragon shouts to kill one, but at least very good gear. You get dragon shouts from dragons, so something that is a main feature in this game won't be available until level 50? :facepalm:

This. The main quest will be finished well before level 50.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:52 am

There should be a set number of dragons with unique levels, the weaker ones should be in set pathways, whereas the strong ones will take places high up on mountains and will be told of in local legend :)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:42 pm

There should be a set number of dragons with unique levels, the weaker ones should be in set pathways, whereas the strong ones will take places high up on mountains and will be told of in local legend :)

I like it :)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:02 pm

There should be a set number of dragons with unique levels, the weaker ones should be in set pathways, whereas the strong ones will take places high up on mountains and will be told of in local legend :)

*Strums Guitar*

Today I come to tell a legend. Of an extraordinary creature called a Dragon. One that can burn a town in a single breath and kill us all in his hot death. And the legend goes...

*Stops Strumming*

I saw a dragon the other day, dreadful creatures.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:15 pm

Maybe dragons will get more frequant the more you do of the Main Quest (like the Gates from Oblivion or Dramers from Morrowind). :shrug:
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:04 am

Maybe dragons will get more frequant the more you do of the Main Quest (like the Gates from Oblivion or Dramers from Morrowind). :shrug:


I like that idea, but don't have them vanish off the face of Tamriel after you finish the Main Quest
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:13 pm

I'm a bit unsure as to the matter of dragons leveling with the player. Ideally, I'd say dragons should not be leveled, or should have a minimum level, as a dragon should not be an enemy you can easily defeat at level one, but I get the impression that dragons are supposed to be something you encounter throughout the game, and it could get annoying if you can't do anything to help cities that are being attacked by dragons at low levels, though this could potentially be adressed by having dragons not start attacking until a certain point in the main quest, one which would require a cetain minimum level to complete, and stronger dragons could start appearing more often as you progress through the main quest. This way, you don't have the strongest dragons in the game flying around and attacking cities at the beginning, but the progression is more natural because it's based on the progression of the main quest ather than the players' level, after all, with most stories, things tend to escalate as events progress, Skyrim's, I'm sure, will be no exception, it is reasonable to see this reflected in the main threat to the world we'll see throughout the game.

As far as the minimum level for killing dragons, I'd say it depends on what type they are, since I believe there's multiple types of dragons, we can probably asssume that there's differences in the level of threat they pose. I'd say that even the weakest dragons should be strong enough to be a significant threat, but definitely not something you need to be level 50 to handle, seeing as, like I said, dragons seem to be enemies we're supposed to fight throughout the story.

In terms of the frequency of dragons, I'm not really sure. They need to be common enough that they feel like a regular threat to the world, but at the same time not so common that they just become annoying, I'm not sure what exact number would be appropriate, however.
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