Well, we don't know if the Wamasus were dragons at all. What I DO know is that Cyrus managed to fight and win against one ALONE. And certainly way before 7 days.

Well Cyrus was a hero, just like Dovahkiin will be.
So of course it was before 7 days. :tongue:

You are the king of pessimism. Everytime I read a thread you are always saying "I hope not this or it better not that." Skyrim better not have combat or that will ruin the game!



I lol'd.

well..as long as theres different types of dragons, leading to varied combats with each one. The oblivion gates were all the same..

If I had to guess, and I don’t, I think they might be comparable to running into a behemoth in FO3.

Some quest related, some random.

A little easier once you get the hang of’em, but always an “Oh [censored]!” moment.

That’s if they’re not just “Alas! A dragon has attacked Snordville! Go and see if how you may aid the city! Alas! A dragon has attacked Boobyforj! Go and see if you how you may aid the city!”

…But I doubt it.

You play as the last of the Dragonborn. They're very skilled with killing dragons. I still hope they make it challenging, possibly even using some type of game mechanic used to blast through cover you might have to take, as getting hit by one of these things should do alot of damage. They could possibly even allow them to take you by surprise, such as for example, if there was some type of earth element dragon, being able to dig into a rock, when the player passes by, it emerges from the rock face and attacks (possibly doing this in battle to make you thing they lost you and went back), or say a water one jumping out at you when near water. Bethesda has, as far as I know, never let you fight a dragon, so the possibilities of what they can make them do are endless. Also, I hope that the loot on these isn't exactly as much weapons as much as it is materials to make a powerful one, such as, going back to the stone dragon, it's skin. If it were to have stone skin, taking some of that skin for armor would make a strong peice of armor, or a very high damage sword. Back on to the game mechanic part at the beginning, here is what I'd hope to be a layout of a battle: Say you get hit by a fire dragon, you run to some nearby ruins for cover. Suddenly, the dragon blasts through the rocks, so much for cover. Luckily, the rubble, scattered across the ground, can be used to avoid some attacks. Eventually, you finda thin spot the dragon can't fit through, although he can breathe and cook you on the spot, the double walls could possibly collapse on him, causing him massive damage, you get behind them, as the dragon blasts through, several rocks fall on him. He's almost dead, you hit him with all you got from behind the rubble, eventually finishing him.
A battle like that, where you really have to think, instead of wildly hitting it with your sword, is something i'd like to see.

No. The blades were the protectors of the dragonborn, but were not dragonborn themselves. There is at least one blade left, since he will be your mentor.

I bet there will be one dragon at the peak of each mountain, based on the world size, that can range from about 10 all the way to my best guess, 31. 20 Hard dragons, 10 Insane dragons, and 1 final boss at the top of the tallest mountain.

Sorry, my mistake. The Septims were dragonborn X_X

And there hearts will be sigil stones!
Wait, thats just stupid...

I was thinking this as well and i'm actually quite confident it will be along these lines.

I beleive that there will be hundreds of them, or like other enemies just generated and basically infinate of them. If you read it it says each time you kill a Dragon you learn more about them, not more of them. Also, they can attack cities and you when your not doing a quest and just wandering around.. They can just randomly attack you out of the sky. There will probably be different types of dragons though. They said there are small ones at the beginning and as you get farther into the Story bigger ones and more appear. Also, a one screen there was 3 dragons, if ther was only 20 that would be odd.

I don't think they will be like oblivion gates simply just another enemy but, stronger and more capable of Flanking you. Also, Oblivion gates got annoying after a while. I don't think these will.

He's probably like that because most of the opinions that have been on the board since the GI have been irrational and based on fear. They are almost always ill-informed and filled with assumptions. So to be fair, he probably wouldn't have jumped on people if the boards hadn't gone all [censored] in the last few days.

Gawd I hope you're wrong, because there was nothing "Oh [censored]" about any Behemoth after the first two or so. From then on it was "Oh goody, where's something I can get this lummox trapped behind so I can laugh while I shoot it to death casually with a BB gun?"

For me it was more like....

"Oh look, a Behemoth. Luckily I have about 20 mini nukes."

you can also learn dragon shouts from some people
I think they will kinda be like less rare behemoths and those were fun, I actually killed one with a rapid fire shotgun

I always took them out with about 8 bottlecap mines. Easy as cake.

Dragons really should be far stronger and more intelligent than that. I think one issue is that the Behemoths had no abilities. Oh they hit hard, sure, but what ELSE do they do?

Nothing. They did nothing else.

Dragons need fire breathing, Dragon Shouts, flight, strong attacks, MULTIPLE attacks (claws, tail whips, etc), gusts of wind from their wings, etc.

I think there was one picture that showed a dragon breathing fire, I hope it was an in game shot

You pop in TES V: Skyrim looking to fight a dragon, only to find.....CLIFF RACERS!

Actually you will become master of the Cliff racers and together you will defeat the dragon scum!
After that has happened the main quest is not over yet, oh no. Jiub will appear and try to destroy your new allies. Then you must decide who you will help in this battle of the ages...

Are these dragon shout permanent or temporary? If they are permanent then some serious thought is needed for the fights.

What if cliffracers actually are minor dragons?

I'm really hoping the dragons can swoop down and pick people up. Imagine just walking in the wilderness, and then suddenly being picked up and dropped into a lake or something, with the dragon circling around. It would be lulzy to see NPCs get dropped at the very least...

They mentioned that Dragons attack towns right? Not only is that an indication of open towns (yay!), but that dragon fights can vary not just by type of dragon (fire, ice, lightning - if they exist) but also by the location of the fight. For example:

Dragon attacks large town: Player fights the dragon supported by town's militia. Arrows raining from archers on the walls and towers; guards bravely rushing the dragon, amounting to little more than a distraction to provide you with an opening; packed buildings become obstacles for you or the dragon - dragon climbing over them, meaning you have to run through alleyways to cut him off at the other side - or you could climb a building and leap from it onto the dragon's back?

Dragon attacks small settlement: Player fights the dragon while it attacks citizens. Do you defend the people, or wait for the dragon to start eating one - using that as a chance to attack from behind?

Dragon attacks player in wilderness: One-on-one fight, with use of terrain playing a heavy role in the outcome of the fight - if you use it well. Woodcutting as a skill indicates that trees might be destructible: Imagine a fight in the forest, where one huge swing of the dragon's tail could shatter through the surrounding tree trunks, with the player needing to dodge them as they crash to the ground. Boulders could be used to hide from dragon fire. Fights at the top of a mountain could stir up a blizzard, reducing vision for both combatants: harder to see the dragon coming, but also harder for him to see you.

As far as what you get from killing the dragon, we already know about Dragon Shouts, but don't forget that Smithing is now a skill. I'm betting dragon scales, claws, and teeth are lootable and can be forged into some pretty epic weapons and armour. The Daedric equivalent for Skyrim? Certainly a lot more of an achievement to earn it by slaying several dragons and forging it yourself, than finding it on every random marauder after level 30.

I'm just using my imagination, and perhaps some of these ideas are beyond the new engine's capabilities (destructible trees), but I'm sure Beth have utilized the environment to add variety to the Dragon fights. Wasn't that the biggest complaint of Oblivion gates after all? They all looked and played out the same? These guys know what they're doing. If we can think of these ideas, they definitely can.

You have no taste in games my friend, Dragon Age: Origins was the best game of 2009.

Aside from that, I don't see how the gates compare to the dragons. I see why you think they have the same role but surely a simple 1 on 1 fight is a bit different from a dungeon. As others have said the fights will probably get boring if each and every dragon is exactly the same. I am hoping the dragons use the Dragon Shouts themselves (as they probably do) which would make everything truly EPIC.