Dragons dying to cliff racers...? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:52 pm

How is this even possible? Cliff racers are weak.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:39 pm

Think ants or locusts.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:43 pm

I think you need to re-take intro-level biology. Crowding out of food supplies and intra-species competition is by far the #1 reason for species extinctions.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:21 pm

It is a bit hard to wrap your head around.

But, think of it this way.

Dragons have a home in morrowind. Cliffracers come along. Dragons think "hmm, viable food supply. No need to chase em off. Let's just eat em." Cliffracers reproduce much much faster than dragons can eat them. Eventually cliffracers begin to use swarm tactics to kill off dragons. To make sure they live, they flee to new lands.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:13 pm

Think of a spider fighting an ant. Now think of a spider fighting a thousand ants.

There comes a point where sheer overwhelming numbers can defeat any force, including Dragons.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:17 pm

I just didn't think there was that many cliff racers lol.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:53 pm

I just didn't think there was that many cliff racers lol.

Did you play Morrowind?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:38 pm

Did you play Morrowind?

Even in Morrowind there weren't all that many. And even where there were (they seems very fond of foyadas), they could be taken down with a few quick sword swipes or a spell.

I hate wild guar more. You think they're all friendly and BAM, he bites you.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:32 pm

Did you play Morrowind?

I just want to let you know that was the most humorous thing I've seen today, good job sir.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:54 pm

Did you play Morrowind?

Well when it first came out but I don't remember there being that many cliffracers..

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:02 am

Well yea they,re weak, Ther like the weakest thing since rats.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:34 am

Are you kidding? I can look up and see 3 or 4 cliffracers at any one time walking through Vvardenfell.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:11 am

Are you kidding? I can look up and see 3 or 4 cliffracers at any one time walking through Vvardenfell.

Thats what I was thinking.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:09 pm

Well when it first came out but I don't remember there being that many cliffracers..

Oh man.

You have no idea until you decide to trek around the Molag Amur/Red Mountain for a while attracting the attention of every cliff racer that spawns without stopping to kill any of them while at a high level or with tgm on.

And I'll do the "make Tamriel's NPC count look 'realistic'" trick by multiplying the average number of cliff racers encountered in a single Molage Amur/Red Mountain exploration session by something like 100², just to further prove just how many of the buggers would actually be out there.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:49 pm

Oh man.

You have no idea until you decide to trek around the Molag Amur/Red Mountain for a while attracting the attention of every cliff racer that spawns without stopping to kill any of them.

lol

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:29 pm

lol

That was contributive.

Anyway, there really is no way gamesas can represent the sheer number of Cliff Riders that actually exist that would be cpu-efficient for their general audience.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:08 pm

Wait... then shouldn't the cliff racers' population begin to level out as well because of their own food limitations and sheer numbers?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:04 pm

Wait... then shouldn't the cliff racers' population begin to level out as well because of their own food limitations and sheer numbers?

Vvardenfell was opened up to settlement from the outside, I imagine the outlanders coming in unfamiliar with the region and its wildlife make a great food supply.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:36 pm

Vvardenfell was opened up to settlement from the outside, I imagine the outlanders coming in unfamiliar with the region and its wildlife make a great food supply.

No wonder they were so aggressive......

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:03 pm

The thing is these dragons are intelligent and they can breath fire depending on its radius I think it could burn about 1-50 cliff racers... that's basically the main reason I asked this question. And if they were intelligent I don't see why they didn't use tactics of there own its not like there was one dragon against thousands of cliff racers.. But I guess there was just WAY too many cliff racers.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:23 pm

By the time the Dragon is done breathing out, he'll be inhaling Cliff Racers.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:37 pm

Wait... then shouldn't the cliff racers' population begin to level out as well because of their own food limitations and sheer numbers?

This is fantasy, do you really think such logic would be used?

The thing is these dragons are intelligent and they could breath fire depending on its radius I think it could burn about 1-50 cliff racers... that's basically the main reason I asked this question. And if they were intelligent I don't see why they didn't use tactics of there own its not like there was one dragon against thousands of cliff racers.. But I guess there was just WAY too many cliff racers.

Maybe because they're so intelligent they decided it just wasn't worth bothering so they all went somewhere else. I think they'd be the smart ones to do so.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:21 am

I read somewhere Mosquitoes drove out the white settlers in most parts of Africa, but that may have had something to do with the malaria they carried.

Anyone know of examples of smaller, more numerous species making life hard for larger species that compares to cliff racers and dragons?

P.S Run around the Molag Amur region with boots of blinding speed, you attract dozens of cliffracers.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:15 pm

Not really on topic but: I recall hearing somewhere in Oblivion that St. Jiub drove the cliffracers from Morrowind. Any truth to that, or just a cool referance to the real life St. Patrick?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:38 pm

Maybe cliff racers are poisonuss if eaten in large quanities, like twinkies :shrug: