Dragons instead of fast-travel?

Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:58 pm

I'm not saying the Morrowind system is bad and should of been removed but in the case their in they have to carter for more then the hardcoe gamers but your second point I never said that just turn it off I said their are alternatives in the case of oblivion and I realize Bethesda removed and added elements in the case of Oblivion also you don't have to qoute me as a [censored]

Edit: Also your main enemy from what we currently know are the dragons so it would be a bit odd for your enemy to allow you to ride them

We already know that one of the dragon shouts allows dragonborn to summon a dragon to fight alongside him/her. Would it really be far fetched to believe that maybe there will be a dragon shout for transportation? I wouldn't be against the idea, as it would really depend on how Bethesda does it.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:57 am

Dragons are meant to be evil in the game, so that's just [censored] [censored]

EDIT: there should be stagecoaches, boats, caravans, mammoths and frost striders

According to GI there's a kind of a spell in the game that sumons a dragon and forces it to do your bidding, so it doesn't really matter if they're good or evil...
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:26 am

lol at the topic name. After seeing so many people complaining how dragons shouldn't be common or good, this topic just looks like a joke :rofl:
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:00 am

No, I do not want to ride a dragon. I want to kill them. All of them. :batman:

Once again let me state this:

In Daggerfall you could fast travel to anywhere from the start of the game. But it also cost you gold and depending on if you selected to travel safely or not you might not have full health once you reached your destination. In Morrowind they removed that altogether in favor of stilt striders, mark & recall, interventions etc. Then in Oblivion they brought back Daggerfall's system but this time they made it so you had to have actually been to the place first before you cold fast travel there -excluding cities- and made it so you didn't have to "choose" how to travel. Which honestly was a good move, because the point in fast travel is you want to get to your destination without having to trek your way through the forest for the 50th time and fight X amount of creatures along the way. If you want to do that you walk or ride your horse.
I am in full support of fast travel because I know not everyone has the time to spend 8 hours a day playing. They don't have time for that and just want to experience the story. Also, let me point this out. Game world wise you do not "warp" to your destination in Daggerfall or Oblivion. Time actually passes in the game world. You as a person outside of the game just choose to not experience that because you don't have the real world time to do so.

With all that being said, I still want more "immersive" forms of fast travel so the Role-Players out there will be happy. All it takes is Bethesda adding a carriage outside every city or something like that. Speaking of carriages, I really hope we can drive those in Skyrim if they are in the game. :)
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:22 pm

Remember that you're the Dovahkin, you kill dragons, it's your lifes work slaughtering these huge hunters, and one of them is going to let you ride it's back and NOT drop you to your death.

Unlikely.

Even so I think having a faster than horse travel system would be interesting, like Silt Striders in Morrowind, imagine getting to ride one in real time, it'd be interesting.

This reminds me of Griffins in WOW and although they were a lovely scenic way to read a book while you wait, flying around with other dragons in the air would be suicidal at best.
and since levitation is off the menu.... would you trust a medieval parachute?
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:24 am

We already know that one of the dragon shouts allows dragonborn to summon a dragon to fight alongside him/her. Would it really be far fetched to believe that maybe there will be a dragon shout for transportation? I wouldn't be against the idea, as it would really depend on how Bethesda does it.


And....we have lore to back this idea up: "The greatest of the Nords can call to specific people over hundreds of miles, and can move by casting a shout, appearing where it lands." From the Morrowind book, Children of the Sky. If that was our method of fast travel, I'd be okay with it.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:53 pm

I'm tellin' ya....we get a fast travel dragon ability instead of OB's or MW's style! Why won't anyone believe me? (well, OK, so I'm just making things up, but it seems possible... )

Alright, so here's what I'm thinking, and I could be and probably am) dead wrong. :dead:

I haven't been able to decipher the article, but the "look and go" dragon ability looks like a great possibility for fast travel.

1) It's loreish in that it's not an artificial mechanic, but it's something that is part of the story: an ability

2) I don't know how early one gets it, therefore is there a period of walking or other transport available

3) IF I can look at a spot, and go there, I can be off target and still need to hoof it. Going long distance could be hazardous. Or, I might impale myself, target a cliff side and slide to my doom, etc.

4) OK, now my imagination's really going here....I'm picutring some sort of "warp speed" blurred ground effect as you "fly". Now, do all dragons have this? While at warp speed, can I get knocked out of the sky by a dragon or something else? There could be a risk to using that mode of travel where one could get injured, lost (by missing the destination or knocked down), or ...eaten? :blink:

Sure, the ability might only be short distances, but if it's LOS, in a mountainous region, one will need to make various stops to get to the back side of a mountain or hill...and be exposed instaid of just popping up at the marker sight.

But surly, why not put in random encounters in fast travel at the minimum?
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:20 am

lol at the topic name. After seeing so many people complaining how dragons shouldn't be common or good, this topic just looks like a joke :rofl:

What disturbs me is that we as the pc were first announced to be the last of the dragonslayers, then they talked about special dragon powers, next you can whistle for a dragon to come and aid you and to top it now you should be able to ride them. :huh: Apart from the technical difficulties I presume (it'd be a total joke if a simple levitation spell like in MW was still out and they pull off this dragon riding), I wonder if they'll be the antagonists we'll have to stop in battle (with the boss battle possibly being Alduin as I've understood) or they'll be like pet dogs. Quite a discrepancy. I don't see how both are possible. I guess they won't be all bad and I can support that, but dragons as a common sight might get old soon. :blink:
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:52 am

And....we have lore to back this idea up: "The greatest of the Nords can call to specific people over hundreds of miles, and can move by casting a shout, appearing where it lands." From the Morrowind book, Children of the Sky. If that was our method of fast travel, I'd be okay with it.

Now that would be really cool to see. If Bethesda could bring some rp-aspect to the fast travel, I would be a happy camper.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:20 pm

Dragons are not the servants of Man and Mer, the good dragons we run into(If we do) will be highly revered, not lowly mounts. This isn't generic fantasy.
So, as Darth Vader would say, Noooooooooooo.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:34 pm

I don't see Dragons as beasts of burden in any way, shape or form. It would be nice to see something incorporated into the game that just didn't require you to click your heels(mouse button) and magically, magically you are on the other side of the map. I just don't think it could be Dragons.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:19 pm

What disturbs me is that we as the pc were first announced to be the last of the dragonslayers, then they talked about special dragon powers, next you can whistle for a dragon to come and aid you and to top it now you should be able to ride them. :huh: Apart from the technical difficulties I presume (it'd be a total joke if a simple levitation spell like in MW was still out and they pull off this dragon riding), I wonder if they'll be the antagonists we'll have to stop in battle (with the boss battle possibly being Alduin as I've understood) or they'll be like pet dogs. Quite a discrepancy. I don't see how both are possible. I guess they won't be all bad and I can support that, but dragons as a common sight might get old soon. :blink:

I never thought about that, but it would be bad if dragons became the Oblivion gates of Skyrim... Hopefully not. We do have to consider that some dragons are actually quite intelligent in TES lore. One can easily see this in TES Redguard. The whole idea of dragons being in Skyrim period are questionable. It will either truly be amazing and blow everyone away, or be a potential redundant annoyance people just run through.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:25 am

I never thought about that, but it would be bad if dragons became the Oblivion gates of Skyrim... Hopefully not. We do have to consider that some dragons are actually quite intelligent in TES lore. One can easily see this in TES Redguard. The whole idea of dragons being in Skyrim period are questionable. It will either truly be amazing and blow everyone away, or be a potential redundant annoyance people just run through.

You're right. Same worries here! I'll be losing it if these beings as we know them just said "woof". I get the idea we might get to work with them, I mean, other then stopping them or so. Perhaps these relations among dragons themselves and between dragons and other races are more complicated than we think? I hope for the best. Perhaps we won't be fighting this Alduin at all.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:58 pm

I want to ride the dragon I summon with the dragon chant. :)
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:27 am

No no no no. Dragons are not the pets of humans.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:06 am

Riding dragons? Why stop there? Why not ride a giant shark on top of a dragon! Yeah, those bandits will think twice when they see me show up . . .
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:39 pm

Travelling on dragons would be very stupid. They are your enemies. You would better look for information before saying this kind of nonsenses...

By the way, you can like fast travel or not like it, but keep something in mind: it WASN'T teleporting. You just skipped the part when your character went to the place
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:17 am

:stare: NO
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:09 am

Riding dragons? Why stop there? Why not ride a giant shark on top of a dragon! Yeah, those bandits will think twice when they see me show up . . .

Sadly, it won't impress those common bandits. They'll feel invincible in their full Daedric or Glass armor, and have good enough weaponry not to fear either a dragon OR a shark. On the other hand, if your character is a wood elf and asks them to borrow a few Septims, THAT might strike terror in them.

As for the original poster, "what were you thinking?" Do you mean that there's no "standard" free FT, and the only way to get around is to either walk or ride a dragon? That would either rule out FT completely at low levels until you managed to "tame" one, or else trivialize Dragons to the point where any commoner can ride them. Either way, I see it as something between "absurd" and "game-breaking".

Then again, I'm reading a lot of stuff here that's potentially "game breaking" or "just silly", and starting to question whether this game isn't going to be a big mistake on the part of Bethesda for the sake of shooting for a "mass market" that probably couldn't care less about the game.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:00 pm

I certainly hope not. It would make me feel like i'm playing World of Warcraft.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:02 am

As someone said earlier, it will make the dragons much less epic
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:44 am

Riding dragons? Why stop there? Why not ride a giant shark on top of a dragon! Yeah, those bandits will think twice when they see me show up . . .

lol. riding dragons? :bleh:
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:32 am

Seriously OP? :confused:
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:37 am

Not only dragons, but horses, Mages Guild teleportation, Mark and Recall, and travel services.


Don't forget Helicopters and flying saucers! Come on OP, this isn't world of warcraft. In fact, the TES universe was even scaled down to not allow teleporting too because it doesn't make since that you can teleport single people but not armies to where they need to go. I never really was a fan of teleport since it seems better to have armies march and sail to their destination. Just because you have magic doesn't mean the magic is doing the insanely powerful. Now I'm good with the Daedra being able to teleport people because well....they are invincible gods but yeah, not people lol.
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Post » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:09 pm

Dragons are meant to be evil in the game, so that's just [censored] [censored]

EDIT: there should be stagecoaches, boats, caravans, mammoths and frost striders


This.

Frost Striders? Best idea I've heard all day.
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