Dragons shouting Dragon Shouts

Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:14 am

It's already been mentioned (and confirmed) that when a dragon exhales fire/ice/etc at you- he's speaking 'dragonian' or saying a dragon shout. So my question is, will their shouts be more limited than Dovahkiin's? or will they be able to conjure storms, slow time, force push, or move extremely fast?
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Epul Kedah
 
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:46 am

Actually, I think they might make the shouts of dragons even stronger than our own.....
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Kara Payne
 
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:54 am

No way, It would be extremly frustrating having a dragon call in a storm and have it shock you repeatedly. The open plains would become a death trap.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:46 am

Maybe let them have a few stock powers per level base (aka lvl 1-8 only get flight while lvl 9-16 also get a dash attack etc.) with a few type based powers (like flame, frost breath, invisibility, earthquakes) for different types
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:18 pm

Let me get this straight: The dragon language is the origin of the shouts in the first place, yet, you propose that perhaps the Dovahkiin alone can use them?

Forgive me for thinking this to be the dumbest idea ever. Seriously, I don't care how uneven people think it'll be, they're dragons. In ES, their power is in their shout. What cannot be understood about this, I haven't the foggiest.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:16 am

No way, It would be extremly frustrating having a dragon call in a storm and have it shock you repeatedly. The open plains would become a death trap.


o.0 Yes, that indeed sounds disgusting.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:50 am

Let me get this straight: The dragon language is the origin of the shouts in the first place, yet, you propose that perhaps the Dovahkiin alone can use them?

Forgive me for thinking this to be the dumbest idea ever. Seriously, I don't care how uneven people think it'll be, they're dragons. In ES, their power is in their shout. What cannot be understood about this, I haven't the foggiest.


I know what your talking about, but Gameplay wise the dragons would be very overpowered.

Imagine this a dragon is on your tail, you can make it to a nearby dungeon before it gets to you. It uses the speed shout and is now 3 meters behind you

in the begining of the game lets say you start with 100 health.

A Swipe does At Least 30 damage (Outcome dosent look so bright)
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:34 am

I know what your talking about, but Gameplay wise the dragons would be very overpowered.

Imagine this a dragon is on your tail, you can make it to a nearby dungeon before it gets to you. It uses the speed shout and is now 3 meters behind you

in the begining of the game lets say you start with 100 health.

A Swipe does At Least 30 damage (Outcome dosent look so bright)


The odds of us having to fight such a powerful dragon at such a low level are quite slim, I'm sure. Not all of them are going to be as big and bad as the one we saw in the trailer. If they are, we won't be encountering them for some time into the MQ/game.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:28 am

The odds of us having to fight such a powerful dragon at such a low level are quite slim, I'm sure. Not all of them are going to be as big and bad as the one we saw in the trailer. If they are, we won't be encountering them for some time into the MQ/game.


The dragons not the problem its the speed shout/storm shout/time shout.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:41 am

I think some of the shouts could be problematic, such as the stealth teleporting shout and the summon dragon shout. It has been said there are different types of dragons, so I think most dragons will only have shouts related to their element.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:24 am

The dragons not the problem its the speed shout/storm shout/time shout.


You seem to be picturing quite the nightmarish situation as far as dealing with dragons is concerned. Tell me, is there another creature in the ES games that has haunted you enough to warrant such concern?

Cliff Racers don't count.
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Post » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:05 pm

I absolutely think they should. High level dragons should have multiple shouts, and special bosses should be able to have every shout we have. There should even be some shouts that we the player can never use or gain in my opinion.

Think about it: This is their language to begin with, why should our upstart dragonborn be better at or know more words than they do when they have possibly lived many hundreds or thousands of years longer than any mortal out there?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:18 pm

You seem to be picturing quite the nightmarish situation as far as dealing with dragons is concerned. Tell me, is there another creature in the ES games that has haunted you enough to warrant such concern?

Cliff Racers don't count.


No there isin't another creature that worries me. What worries me is that you'll be fighting a version of yourself. only difference is that version Can fly/move faster inaddition to all your shouts.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:12 am

I absolutely think they should. High level dragons should have multiple shouts, and special bosses should be able to have every shout we have. There should even be some shouts that we the player can never use or gain in my opinion.

Think about it: This is their language to begin with, why should our upstart dragonborn be better at or know more words than they do when they have possibly lived many hundreds or thousands of years longer than any mortal out there?


Well perhaps a high level boss could have some of your shouts. But honestly, no body wants to have a dragon call in a lightning storm and slow down time. Other than those two shouts i guess a boss dragon could have at least 2 shouts.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:09 am

No there isin't another creature that worries me. What worries me is that you'll be fighting a version of yourself. only difference is that version Can fly/move faster inaddition to all your shouts.


What was it that Todd compared dragons to? Something mixed with a helicopter? It's in someone's signature.

Anyhoo, I wouldn't consider dragons (as I much as I know of them thus far) to be flying version of myself. I also wouldn't consider having to fight myself a problem: I call that the ultimate challenge.

Bring it on. :rock:
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:49 am

The dragons not the problem its the speed shout/storm shout/time shout.


If it's like that, I think it's the first time ever in TES that I'll begin with the main quest...
lol
Only to see the dragons faster :D



Well perhaps a high level boss could have some of your shouts. But honestly, no body wants to have a dragon call in a lightning storm and slow down time. Other than those two shouts i guess a boss dragon could have at least 2 shouts.



Oh, that'd be bad...

Slow time, lightning, slow time again....
damn
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:10 am

I think they will be limited. Some of the shouts can be 'upgraded' by finding a dragon ruin or something like that. You can progress and complete a shout by finding more inscriptions for it. So I believe the shouts will be either on the same level or weaker then your own shouts depending on how far you progressed it.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:23 am

Well perhaps a high level boss could have some of your shouts. But honestly no body wants to have a dragon call in a lightning storm and slow down time. Other than those two shouts i guess a boss dragon could have at least 2 shouts.


I disagree. Dragons should be as much our nemesis, as we are theirs. There is no reason for them to be limited in the way you suggest. Why should these ancient, powerful beings be more limited than a mortal who got the soul jackpot and has the soul, but not the body of a dragon?

I want to see enemy dragons using the same shouts I can use against me, and I want to see them use everything we can use in that regard. It's like saying someone who has limited or is just beginning to learn a language, should be able to use and learn it better than someone who has been speaking it all their life.

Maybe they should add a shout-canceling system. Like say, dragon uses lightning storm shout, and then you use it right after they use it and it has a chance to make both your shouts cancel out. And say, you use slow time and a dragon uses slow time right after you do, both your shouts cancel and you both go back to normal and have a cool down.

It's just stupid.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:50 am

What was it that Todd compared dragons to? Something mixed with a helicopter? It's in someone's signature.

Anyhoo, I wouldn't consider dragons (as I much as I know of them thus far) to be flying version of myself. I also wouldn't consider having to fight myself a problem: I call that the ultimate challenge.

Bring it on. :rock:

When i said a version of your self i meant something that Has all your shouts except perhaps racial abilities.(If included)


I'm fine with them having shouts other than the storm call and the time freeze/speed.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:28 am

I'm hoping that question will be answered by the fan interviewing Bethesda at Quakecon. I'm personally all for the Dragons having all of our capabilities (and possibly some special Dragons having either extremely rare to complete or impossible to complete shouts of their own).

It's not to say all Dragons are going to be summoning a Dragon, a storm, and sprinting at us all in one instance.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:34 am

I disagree. Dragons should be as much our nemesis, as we are theirs. There is no reason for them to be limited in the way you suggest. Why should these ancient, powerful beings be more limited than a mortal who got the soul jackpot and has the soul, but not the body of a dragon?

I want to see enemy dragons using the same shouts I can use against me, and I want to see them use everything we can use in that regard. It's like saying someone who has limited or is just beginning to learn a language, should be able to use and learn it better than someone who has been speaking it all their life.

Maybe they should add a shout-canceling system. Like say, dragon uses lightning storm shout, and then you use it right after they use it and it has a chance to make both your shouts cancel out. And say, you use slow time and a dragon uses slow time right after you do, both your shouts cancel and you both go back to normal and have a cool down.

It's just stupid.


I agree somewhat but i dont want the dragons to have storm call/slow down time/speed(there fast enough).

The cancel out dosent make sense. How would it work if you both use speed/Or you use a shout that uses all you energy(if energy bar is included) and the dragon just cancels it out?
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:39 am

I agree somewhat but i dont want the dragons to have storm call/slow down time/speed(there fast enough).

The cancel out dosent make sense. How would it work if you both use speed/Or you use a shout that uses all you energy(if energy bar is included) and the dragon just cancels it out?


Basically it only would apply to powerful long duration/effect shouts. For example, if a dragon starts using speed, and then you use it right away...both of you lose it and it goes on cool down for both of you so neither can use it for a while. At least, that's how I would make it.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:49 am

When i said a version of your self i meant something that Has all your shouts except perhaps racial abilities.(If included)


I stand by me original response: Bring it on.

I'm fine with them having shouts other than the storm call and the time freeze/speed.


I'd prefer they have them, the more powerful ones at least. Which I'm sure will be the case.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:47 am

I personally can't wait to be hit with storm call. Dodging, blocking lightning sounds like a challenge, and I revel a challenge. Especially now adays when games are so forgiving.
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Post » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:59 pm

I personally can't wait to be hit with storm call. Dodging, blocking lightning sounds like a challenge, and I revel a challenge. Especially now adays when games are so forgiving.


That's the key to Skyrim being truly enjoyable to me: Being unforgiving.

Bethesda wants me to hold their latest game in a higher regard than I do Morrowind, then Skyrim must be every bit as deep and unforgiving.
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