Dragons- the key to victory over the thalmor?

Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:10 am

Imperial or stormcloak, it's pretty obvious that another war with the thalmor will be coming. Whether it will be the stormcloaks or imperials facing them in battle is another matter(which is not to be discussed here!).

However, consider that the dragonborn joined one of these sides. He/she won them the civil war and brought a short peace to skyrim. He/she has also defeated Alduin the world eater and gained the respect of potentially hundreds of dragons.

Could the dragonborn convince the dragons to fight for him in a war against the thalmor? Similar to how tiber septim did? Imagine dragons unleashing flames upon aldmeri legions and roasting thalmor encampments. They could very well win the war and also the respect of mortal races (whether they want that or not is another matter).

Or would parthy object (I presume he is still alive)? Would he say that it is not the way forward for the dragons? Will the dragons themselves object, saying they do not want to be the playthings of mortals? Or will they gladly accept, willing to taste battle?

Discuss! I need ideas :twirl:

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Steve Smith
 
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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:34 am

I say in elder scrolls anything can happen.

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ShOrty
 
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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:18 pm

Well, there is the Bend Will shout. Though it's hard to say exactly how powerful it is in the hands of our Dragonborn.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:10 am

Or perhaps Sheogorath will rain exploding wheels of cheese so that all may enjoy it, or die whichever comes first.

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Elisha KIng
 
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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:07 am

Well, back in Tiber Septim's days, it was Numidium. Why not dragons this time?

We'll propably read all about it, in TES VI's ingame books and lore.

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Sarah Unwin
 
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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:45 am

the only way this would work is with some augmented bend will shout, dragons are selfish by nature, and even when Alduin was around they kinda just did their own thing

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:17 am

Only if the Dragons see the Thalmor as a threat or if they believe the Thalmor are superior to them and wish to take control of them.
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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:44 am

source please? we have only gained the respect of three, Paarth (who is possibly dead as I think they will make the Blades canon.. being the blades and all), Odahviing (who only really helps you because it was part of your deal to set him free), and Durnehviir (who is trapped in the Soul Cairn 99.9% of the time).. we see no other Dragons who have given their "respect".. Dragons are dominating Creatures who see Mortals as "inferior beings", even if he slayed Alduin the World Eater, this fact will not change...



Anyways

I don't see the Dragons assisting the mortal races against the Thalmor, it would go completely against their nature...



I see two things that I think would be our Trump Card Against the Thalmor:

1) the Dominion set up a military base on the east cost of Tamriel. at the same time, an Akaviri invasion force decides to take advantage of the political turmoil in Tamriel, which lands in the Dominions newly constructed forward base of operations. this leads to a major war between the Dominion and Akavir, either having the Dominion squahed, or weakening them enough for an alliance of the various other provinces to be able to sucessfully eradicate them.

2) the Maormer. if the Dominion ticked off the Maormer, and with the Maormers control of sea monsters, they could create a blockade around the Summerset isles, which the Dominion would spend the majority of their forces trying to breach. once again weakening them enough for an Alliance of the other provinces to potentially beat them


way I see it, our best chance against the Thalmor is an outside force appearing onto the scene...

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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:48 pm

Not going to happen.

Thalmor is not going to be taken down out-of-game. And that sure isn't going to happen in-game. The Thalmor will likely be taken down by their own people/allies. They're likely the next big doomsday threat, so they won't be defeated unless the next game takes place in Summerset.

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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:20 pm

>Travel to a dragon lair

> Use Bend Will Shout

>?????

> Altmer barbecue

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Annika Marziniak
 
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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:55 pm

Can dragons even leave Skyrim?

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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:48 pm

Dragons used to be all over Nirn I believe (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong), the Akaviri Dragonguard's original purpose after the dragons were chased out of Akavir was to take their Dragon war to Tamriel.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:34 am

The Dragonborn might be able to take on the Aldmeri Dominion by him/herself at this point, with the help of the dragons if they are so willing (or forced to). It's going to be interesting to see how BGS waves the LDB away.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:22 am

Going to join the rest of the Divines as another useless God that the Nords can worship for completely misguided and inaccurate raisins.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:04 am

Maybe he'll pull a Tosh Raka after all devouring all them souls and become a dragon-god aspect to replace Alduin's spot. Instead of being a tiger dragon he'll be dragon with many eyes and tentacles. Then he'll use Bend Will to ride Dragons. *enter Exhibit* Yo dawg I heard you like Dragons..

Yeah. That's what's going on.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:34 am

Miraak mastered it to the level he could control an entire island, and had multiple dragon thralls under his command

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Chloe Yarnall
 
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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:02 pm

I heard you like Dragons.

So we made your character who is born with Dragon blood who kills Dragons and absorbs Dragon souls become a Dragon who rides Dragons while becoming a Dragon after absorbing another person who was also Dragonborn who absorbed lots of Dragon souls and was a Dragon.

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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:01 pm

Good point.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:48 am

Right, but how long would it take for Playerborn to reach that level? I'm assuming that the limits gameplay mechanics impose on shouts aren't indicative of their skill, so Bend Will probably isn't a glorified/neutered Command Humanoid/Creature spell. Or maybe it is, at its current level. Ick. Too much to think about this late at night.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:04 am

It doesn't need to be on that scale. Riding a dragon into battle already makes a great difference.

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Shae Munro
 
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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:19 am

Just think about the possibilities if we ignore gameplay mechanics.

A Dragonborn who can freeze time, become etherial, control the weather, shout down gates, create mini-tornados, teleport sprint and ride and command dragons.. without a cool down.

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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:15 pm

Also it makes no difference to the end of the game whether Part is dead or alive, no difference to anyone except the Blades and the Greybeards that is and the Greybeards are worse than useless.

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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:05 pm

The Aldmeri Dominion is already defeated. The Elder Council is just paid by them to do their bidding, so the Empire allows them to do whatever they want with no recompense, despite having no military might.

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Post » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:32 pm

If I were to agree with your point (And I don't completely about having no military strength at all) then I suppose we could also agree that the only thing needed would be for a Emporer that would call their bluff and kick their backsides off the mainland.

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Post » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:57 am

Yeah, but the Elder Council had him assassinated. They are, once again, the supreme power of the Empire.

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