Obviously there are dragons from Akavir, which come in at least two varieties (red and black). The Tsaesci killed some and drove the rest out. The ones in Vvardenfell, which may or may not have come from Akavir (as far as I know), were overrun by cliff racers and moved closer to Cyrodiil. Akatosh's avatar takes the form of a golden dragon, which may be another variety or may be His way of distinguishing himself as divine.

So, one must ask, are the dragons in Skyrim, which have bony, platelike scales and are dull-colored, another variety of Akaviri dragon, dragons from Vvardenfell (whose appearance isn't well known), or some sort of dragons native to Skyrim (possibly even Atmora)? Could they be remnants of the Ehlnofey, who were the progenitors of men and beasts on Nirn? Doubt has been cast on whether the Hist was a tree or some type of Argonian (though the Argonians themselves refer to the trees as Hist), so could dragons, being reptilian, be mistaken for a strange variety of Argonian? Or could they even be divine (aedra, daedra)? Alduin is considered to be a god by the Nords, so it's entirely possible.

Thoughts?

Alduin is (or at least shares a soul with) Akatosh. That's where at least he came from. As for all other dragon lore, the vast majority of it has been retconed so we don't really know.

Big lizards with wings.

Aedra?

What's been retconed?

Rust Dragons that lay bathing in the waters around the imperial city, Naafilargus (spelling?) the red dragon in Redguard, the dragons from Morrowind that were driven into Cyrodil, etc.

Cliff racers on flin.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1065663-dragons/page__p__15482750__hl__dragons__fromsearch__1#entry15482750

is what the reconned.

None were retconed. King Edward hasn't been current, since Morrowind's Monomyth. The rust dragons are still there; the dragons which flew above the minarets of Cyrodiil City, although gone with Tiber, have not been retconned. Dragonlings aren't dragons, and neither are gargoyles... those axed bits of DnD's bestiary don't count as retcons. Naf isn't retconned.


There are no continuity issues, here.

Do you mean their color? I reckon they change shirts, like you.

I'm not so sure about that. Akatosh is a bastardization of the Aldmeri Auri-el and the Nordic Alduin, so Alduin came first. But then, Akatosh is the permanent, never-changing god of time, and we know he exists, so how could he have not come first? Then again, we also now know Alduin exists. See what I mean? Tamrielic religion is more convoluted than religion in real life, because they see proof. There's only one explanation for that: human perception changes the aedra. It could be that Akatosh and Alduin (and, theoretically, Auri-el) are all aspects of one god, or that all pantheons exist as long as someone believes in them. On the former, it could be something to the tune of divine dissociative identity disorder. I mean, if hundreds of thousands of people over hundreds of years built a life around the belief that you're something you're not, you'd start having doubts that you are what you were, if you get my drift.

Back to dragons, though...

I made a poll!

I actually find it likely that the dragons are gills, which (although also being a term for female normal dragon) is also used to describe the lesser Aedra.

I'd say semi-divine beings, just behind the aedra, and re-awoke once Alduin started ringing his dinner bell. Also, giant lizards with wings that spit fire.

As for the other choices, currently, there is only 1 dragon in Akavir, and even then, I doubt the accuracy. If Morrowind's tongue and cheek joke is accurate, a lot of dragon came from Morrowind after being driven off by the cliff racers. It's likely they have been in hiding since Tiber took them in. And definitely not the Hist. And definitely not the Ehlnofey.

They're OWL Exterminators!

These aren't just your typical dragons that randomly started roaming in Skyrim for fun. These dragons are here because of a prophecy that was set in motion by the four previous games. Wherever their origins, they are either from Akaviri or divine servants of Alduin.

Akavir? I already explained that there's only 1 atm, and even then, that information is dubious about what is meant by 'dragon'

Too many people obsess over Akavir for their own good.

Being that we're in Skyrim, I would highly doubt that they are native to Cyrodiil.

We are gona know once the game is released.

I've heard some people conjecture that Akatosh is in reality "Alduin" in that he is a destroyer rather than protector, and that the Septims just lied about having a covenant with him as proof of their right to rule...but then, Martin/Akatosh pretty much proved they at least have some connection.

I do definitely feel like the dragons are somewhat more than "creatures" and that their prophecy is one where they act as divine agents of change by scorching the land and cleansing the world in fire.

I have no idea how you got the "one dragon in Akavir" idea, but I'm more or less certain you're wrong. It was a species, dragonkind, as it were, not an individual, that occupied Akavir. They were killed or driven out by the Tsaesci. Unless you're assuming they were all killed, and you're referring to Tosh Raka of the Ka Po' Tun, who allegedly became a dragon as the one. Really...you seem quite sure about all of this.


Sorry, I meant Skyrim. Suppose I'll change that. :whistling: But hey, you never know. Maybe doom will originate from Cyrodiil?

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