I didn't play battlespire, but I read the TIL thing for it. From my understanding, the main difference between a Dremora and a human is that when they die, they come back. From what I saw of battlespire they all have their own will, goals, likes, dislikes, etc.
Some with Morrowind (which I did and do play). There is a Dremora who works for Vivec, one in the Gnisis temple, it goes on. I think they live like humans, only without the fear of death. They still fear pain, loneliness, and other things humans fear, just the big D isn't there.

Though I am purely speculating, they have higher consciences too in terms of sensing power. Daedra are sensitive to power, hence they flock to the greater Daedra with whatever power or strength they feel sentiment or communion with.

Could explain why Anhaedra and Krazzt are in service to the Temple. The Magic Rock is obviously an symbol of the Tribunal's power, and the Vivec is practically sitting on top of the Puzzle Canol.

Why did Imago Storm betray Dagon in Battlespire if he was a part of him?

Ah, it wasn't betrayal. I was simply cautious politics. Yes, Imago Storm was a politician. Storm knows, and you can tell that Dagon and his cohorts were planning something big back then, most probably the Oblivion Crisis itself.

Facilitating an enemy with the means to really screw up your boss isn't betrayal?

Dagon wasn't really screwed up. About 40 years later he came back, angrier and bigger than ever.

That's why I said "screw up" instead of "kill". I'm aware of the nature of Daedra.

Since you're aware of the nature of the Daedra, you'll also be aware that the incantation used on Dagon didn't permanently harm him, and, in conjunction with the Moon Reiver simply caused his life force to hurtle back to Oblivion. Dagon wasn't hurt, just sent back into Oblivion, just like Team Rocket in all those episodes of Pokemon.

And, if Imago Storm actually revealed that doing this would destroy the Spire, I doubt you would have done it.

Mehrunes Dagon is living proof that Daedra have no ability to grasp the concept of futility, which is one thing mortals are especially gifted with.

Then again, maybe that's just Dagon. I won't generalize.

Heh, I'd say so. But futility really is simply anologous to fatigue in many ways. Seeming that the Daedra do no get fatigued, least of all Princes, then Dagon will never stop.

Though, I don't understand the situation, now that Aka "sealed" Mundus from Oblivion. What happens next?

Jyggalag regains his strength and rips through the other Daedra like a tornado of razor blades. The events in Shivering Isles will have some rather catastrophic repercussions. Where the other greater Daedra are dependent on lesser Daedra, Jyggalag has forces seemingly innumerable and infinite.

Also, the entire thing was pretty much pointed out in Oblivion. Mehrunes Dagon would be the main force capable of standing in Jyggalag's way, and he just suffered quite a catastrophic defeat. The other Daedric Princes, aside from the current Sheogorath, are going to be utterly annihilated.

It's certainly an exciting future for the Daedric world. Though, Jyg wouldn't be able to annihilate any Daedra.

It was never alluded to that he was even aggressive against the other princes before the cycle of Greymarches began. The origin of his curse seems to have come from Daedric jealousy, something which the Daedra do have in abundance.

For all we know, Jyg might just wander around the waters of Oblivion, gathering creatia, and then make his own perfect realm and have a perfect cup of tea, sitting on a perfectly symmetrical piece of existence.

Because all of his reincarnations up until then got killed before reaching Moon-And-Star. So he's like MC Pee Pants, except his reincarnations didn't degrade in quality over time.

Jyggalag seems like way too much of a [censored] to let things settle like that. He's like the Elder Scrolls version of Anubis from StarGate. He views independence and freedom as chaotic, as imperfect. His ultimate goal from what I got is to wipe out the other Daedric Princes, if not simply because he hates the things they represent, then because of the whole imprisonment thing. The others restrained him under Sheogorath's mantle because they feared his knowledge, If there's one being that may have the power to truly destroy a Daedra, it's Jyggy.

I could also compare Jyggalag's break to Loki getting free of his prison and triggering Ragnarok. >_>

How would he do that? Bore them to death?

Prevent them from being able to regather themselves post-mortem and thus cause them to essentially become mortal? I don't know. Jyggalag has some of the highest tier technology and arcane knowledge to exist.

And really good deduction and logic skills. The only thing that could stop him, or at least cancel him out, would have to be his polar opposite. But we don't know what really goes on after the events of SI with Sheo/CoC.

Perhaps the reason why Dremora and other lesser Daedra such as the Mazken and such don't need to eat and sleep is because they are essentially bound to the realm they inhabit, and their is some link between the two that means that they need not to drink, eat or rest? :shrug:

Either that or it's game mechanics, simple as that.

Or wait, wait, wait...

They're immortal and are not bound by the necessity to eat and sleep in order to survive.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's really not that hard of a concept.

It doesn't say that they sleep, it says that death is like sleep...

It's very likely that there have been many reincarnations of Nerevar before, they just failed at winning... or Vivec killed them...

It may be out of context but the anology transfers from one context to the other just fine...

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By saying that the Lesser Daedra are parts of the Princes is parallel to saying that all living things are parts of the godhead, in that saying that Lesser Daedra are shards of the greater shards of existence, ie the princes. While it is true that the Dremora are not perminently affiliated with any singular Daedra, it is possible that they are manifestations of Free Will just as Mehrunes Dagon is a manifestation of Destruction. The anology could even be extended by saying that the Dremora's tendency to align with something greater than them (i.e. humanities tendency to serve under elected officials/royalty/dictators)



Why did Lorkhan betray the Aedra if they are all parts of the Godhead?



Free Will can be maintained despite being parts of a larger whole

It doesn't matter if there has been incarnations of Nerevar before, as none of them would have been the Nerevarine.
edit: Seems I said that before in this thread

I never stated the contrary, rather I just said that it wasn't necessarily "many centuries before Nerevar is reborn"...