Dreughs

Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:19 pm

Mankar Camoran mentions "tyrant dreugh-kings" used to rule over the Mundex Terrene, "each to their own dominion, and borderwars fought between their slave oceans. They were akin to the time-totems of old, yet evil, and full of mockery and profane powers. No one that lived did so outside of the sufferance of the dreughs."

Something tells me that was before the Merethic Era.....
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:38 am

Aside from the Sermons, there isn't a lot of other info on Dreughs. The water-dwelling races aren't as well-documented as the land-based ones.
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:46 pm

Proweler has an idea that it's an allegory, and that the Dreugh mentioned in the Commentaries are in fact a reference to the Ayleid empire. I personally like to think it's an allegory that's also based on truth, and there really was some primordial kingdom of Tyrant Dreugh-Kings. Probably since I've been intrigued by these alien creatures since Daggerfall.

A Christmas greeting from Michael Kirkbride, just before the release of Morrowind, gives an origin to the Dreugh that stretches back to antiquity:

    ...warnings older than even the West itself, which was not West yet but the left lung of Aurbis and Old Ehlnofey, alike as during the first of the Altmeri formwars, when as glorious dreughs we fell on the meatmerchants of Thras like loss to split their immutables and render their rude- walking slow....

This gives a literal meaning to a certain passage in the Sermons that describes them as "The Altmer of the Sea".
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:38 am

Sermon 28 has this curious line:

When the dreughs ruled the world, the Daedroth Prince Molag Bal had been their chief. He took a different shape then, spiny and armored and made for the sea. Vivec, in giving birth to the many spawn of his marriage, had dropped an old image of Molag Bal into the world: a dead carapace of memory. It would not have been a monster if a Velothi child had not wanted to impress his village by wearing it.


So maybe Molag Bal was the king of dreughs prior to the Convention? (before he was "shipped off to Coldharbour")
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:48 pm

I thought that according to the altmer that Minotaur's and an now extinct bird man like race ruled over tamriel? o.O
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:29 am

Proweler has an idea that it's an allegory, and that the Dreugh mentioned in the Commentaries are in fact a reference to the Ayleid empire. I personally like to think it's an allegory that's also based on truth, and there really was some primordial kingdom of Tyrant Dreugh-Kings. Probably since I've been intrigued by these alien creatures since Daggerfall.

A Christmas greeting from Michael Kirkbride, just before the release of Morrowind, gives an origin to the Dreugh that stretches back to antiquity:

    ...warnings older than even the West itself, which was not West yet but the left lung of Aurbis and Old Ehlnofey, alike as during the first of the Altmeri formwars, when as glorious dreughs we fell on the meatmerchants of Thras like loss to split their immutables and render their rude- walking slow....
This gives a literal meaning to a certain passage in the Sermons that describes them as "The Altmer of the Sea".

This "Altmeri formwwar", does it refer to the war between Auri-el and Lorkhan? Before the creatures, mer and men gained their static forms?
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:14 pm

This "Altmeri formwwar", does it refer to the war between Auri-el and Lorkhan? Before the creatures, mer and men gained their static forms?

I'd be surprised if the Sload were part of that war, and it does say "first of the formwars". I'd say it might be contempraneous with that crazy period, and the time of the "forest people" mentioned in Words of Clan Mother Ahnissi, when divinities walked the earth.

I thought that according to the altmer that Minotaur's and an now extinct bird man like race ruled over tamriel? o.O

Never heard of minotaurs ruling Tamriel, but bird men come from http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/father_niben.shtml, and it never says they ruled there, nor is it necessarily talking about the same era as the OP's quote. Also, Father of the Niben has several anachronisms anyway that makes it dubious. Not to mention that birds and minotaurs would have a hard time ruling "slave oceans"...

Um.
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:19 am

Never heard of minotaurs ruling Tamriel, but bird men come from http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/father_niben.shtml, and it never says they ruled there, nor is it necessarily talking about the same era as the OP's quote. Also, Father of the Niben has several anachronisms anyway that makes it dubious. Not to mention that birds and minotaurs would have a hard time ruling "slave oceans"...

Um.


I'd think the birdmen where merely meant to be Tweety equivalents to the Kahjit as they're not mentioned anywhere else (as far as I know).
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:54 pm

I'd think the birdmen where merely meant to be Tweety equivalents to the Kahjit as they're not mentioned anywhere else (as far as I know).

I think Tedders was in a furry sort of mood when he was writing for oblivion. Dogmen and ratmen also show up in the PGE 3rd Ed. Terr-(yiffing)-ific.
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:16 pm

I think Tedders was a furry sort of mood when he was writing for oblivion. Dogmen and ratmen also show up in the PGE 3rd Ed. Terr-(yiffing)-ific.


One can only hope they'll show up sooner or later...
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:40 am

I thought that according to the altmer that Minotaur's and an now extinct bird man like race ruled over tamriel? o.O

Maybe you are thinking of Belharza the Man-Bull that ruled the Empire after Alessia?

This "Altmeri formwwar", does it refer to the war between Auri-el and Lorkhan? Before the creatures, mer and men gained their static forms?

Despite the mention of the Sload in that quote I have always taken it that way. I even fashioned the idea into a story, but that's getting a bit off topic. It's the only time we know of that the inhabitants of Mundas were in flux, and that time was also a war so it seems to fit.
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:56 am

The Formwwar reminds me of the Fomorians of Irish folklore.
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