Druid? In TES?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:51 am

There is such an item as "Mantle of the Druid".

However, no such class exists in Oblivion, so i'm guessing this is from another province, not Cyrodiil?

What exactly is a TES druid, if such a thing exists?
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Benjamin Holz
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:26 am

I did find a merchant in the Imperial City selling a "Druid's Cowl," a green hood with Detect Life but some rather nasty side-effects.

Other than these items, there is no evidence of druids in Nirn of which I am aware. That's not to say it's impossible, though.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:03 am

There is such an item as "Mantle of the Druid".

However, no such class exists in Oblivion, so i'm guessing this is from another province, not Cyrodiil?

What exactly is a TES druid, if such a thing exists?

Never described. Druids are what the Celts called a priest, basically, but they had an animist bent. I'd expect them to be amongst the backwater Bretons or the Skaal, if anywhere.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:58 pm

Whatever they are, I doubt they'd be close to the real world, ancient Celt druids. Mostly because we don't really know much about them. And the popular misconceptions spread by D&D, Asterix and the neo-Pagan druids do not help.

As a generic term for "nature priests", though, shamans like Korst Wind-Eye would probably count.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:34 am

The closest TES kin of the Celts I can think of would be the Bosmer, and so perhaps a leader (spiritual or otherwise) of Bosmer could be equated with a Druid. Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything concrete in reading through A Dance in the Fire that would suggest such a leader exists. However, the http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/valenwood.shtml hints that individual bands and tribes of Bosmer are becoming more influential in the Valenwood: "No longer trusting the Empire or Summerset for support, or its local leaders for guidance, the Bosmer have become more and more isolationist in temperament. The people began leaving the cities, preferring life in the forests, returning to their earliest traditions." "Earliest traditions" suggests, in most cases, a religion more animist than not, and so the new spiritual leaders and tribe chiefs could very well have adopted a role similar to that of a Celtic Druid.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:09 pm

Druid might be an alternate name for a priest of Kynareth.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:13 am

Nords and Bosmer are likely candidates for Druids. Specially the Skaal, they struck me as somewhat Druidic.

Otherwise, no evidence period. Kynareth's followers might be termed druids?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:30 am

The Skaal already have a Shaman, which for all intents and purposes isn't all that different from a Druid in the broadest sense of the word.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:57 pm

I found a reference to druids! In character creation in Arena, this message appears when you choose Breton as your race: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r105/Enoil/a_000.png

"Thy race [Breton] is descended from the ancient druids of Galen, quick witted and strong in the mystic arts."
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 11:17 pm

I doubt the devs were remembering that far back when they added druid socks (or whatever) to the game. I don't think many remaining devs would have even played Arena.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:43 am

True. But we know that they were at least intended to be mentioned in the games at some point.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 11:21 pm

True. But we know that they were at least intended to be mentioned in the games at some point.


And then the Reformation began and lo were as many of the stock Dungeons & Dragons put to the vorpal sword as possible.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:36 pm

I doubt the devs were remembering that far back when they added druid socks (or whatever) to the game. I don't think many remaining devs would have even played Arena.

Yeah but thats the closest thing to sealing the deal as it gets. A game mentioning Druids in Breton descriptions. I'd find it safe to say that Druids are part of Nordic and Breton culture. They share common ancestry, and the old British had the Druidic times where they believed in sprites, and their priests were druids, so if you go for the Breton are based off french and British route then that would aid to the idea of druids being in Breton culture.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:53 pm

Druids keep to the Forests, living off the land and respect nature. If people stayed in cities and towns most of the time, i would doubt the druids to be that well known.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:20 am

Druids keep to the Forests, living off the land and respect nature. If people stayed in cities and towns most of the time, i would doubt the druids to be that well known.



I'm hardly an expert, but I'd say that's at least partially due to Julius Ceasar's omitted Gallian urbanism in De Bello Gallico.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 7:21 pm

I found a reference to druids! In character creation in Arena, this message appears when you choose Breton as your race: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r105/Enoil/a_000.png

"Thy race [Breton] is descended from the ancient druids of Galen, quick witted and strong in the mystic arts."


Though this is obviously D&D related, it could be explained by present lore that this reference is to the Tribes of Manmeri found in the Reach by the Skyrim Expedition of Khosey, who were by that time already gifted with the talents for the 'mmystic arts', also even in present times, there is refernce to 'druid-like' goings-on in High Rock. E.g. in PGE First Edition, I quote "In more remote regions, such as Glenpoint and the Wrothgarian Mountains, witches and medicine men, barely distinguishable from Orcish shamans, hold sway over the superstitious peasants with feats of untutored, but often impressive, magical ability. " which clearly could viewed as modern Druidism, also another quote from the PGE First Edition "Reach-magic is still widely studied, although it is banned by the Mages Guild (who fear it as dangerous and wild hedge-wizardry), and the Reachmen are often referred to as the 'Witchmen of High Rock.'", another posible link to Druids, or atleast Druid-Like people living in the remote wilderness of Highrock.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:27 am

That's a bit of a stretch, TOYBoy...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:57 am

That's a bit of a stretch, TOYBoy...


-snip- it could be explained by present lore -snip-


I know it is :P


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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:50 pm

I'm hardly an expert, but I'd say that's at least partially due to Julius Ceasar's omitted Gallian urbanism in De Bello Gallico.

Indeed, I was under the impression that druids were quite sociable folk before the Romans took over Gall.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:24 am

In Arena it says the Bretons of the Wrothgar-mountains are related to x druid race. Not very canon/to date now though.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:47 pm

And then the Reformation began and lo were as many of the stock Dungeons & Dragons put to the vorpal sword as possible.

Blessings of Mystara upon ye! My, what a remarkable mithril sword...

(Okay, yeah, mithril comes from Tolkien, but still...)

Yeah but thats the closest thing to sealing the deal as it gets. A game mentioning Druids in Breton descriptions. I'd find it safe to say that Druids are part of Nordic and Breton culture.

If druid is another word for some noble shaman, following the romanticist tradition, sure, I'd agree. Shamans are a recognised part of those cultures. But I still believe it's just a result of someone nott thinking too hard when they did the naming. We've never heard of druids in more reliable texts and I don't expect we'll hear of them again.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:31 am

And then the Reformation began and lo were as many of the stock Dungeons & Dragons put to the vorpal sword as possible.

Sure. Now it's Dungeons & Dungeons instead. There isn't any mine or military fort in Cyrodiil that isn't ruined, abandoned, and inhabited by goblins, vampires, or bandits.

Druids keep to the Forests, living off the land and respect nature.

That's D&D druids you're talking about, right? Not actual, ancient Celtic druids, right?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:19 am

That's D&D druids you're talking about, right? Not actual, ancient Celtic druids, right?

I certainly hope so, lest he start telling us about the travelling, shapeshifting monks. :mellow:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:39 am

In Arena it says the Bretons of the Wrothgar-mountains are related to x druid race. Not very canon/to date now though.


Like I said earlier, I think the word refers to just another type of the Shamanism seen in Nord and Orcish societies. Druids and Shamans in Tamriel probably feel at one with nature or the All-Maker, but probably express this through a variety of similar but different faiths and rituals.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:12 pm

And then the Reformation began and lo were as many of the stock Dungeons & Dragons put to the vorpal sword as possible.


And there was much wailing.
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