It wouldn't take much to break someone's nose or jaw with a shield, especially when you put your body's momentum into a swing/bash.

Brilliance.
Why?

Because you let the enemy break their weapon on you, and then you can run away with impunity.




That really should be a rule in this http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/724862-forum-rules-and-general-information/

Or neck, or ribcage, or back, or skull...

I would like the idea of wielding to small shields if Skyrim has a perk for making shield bashes deadly. To answer the question(s) above: not necessarily true. I've been to one of these events before as a spectator and one of my friends was wearing a cuirass made with steel plates woven together. I saw some people in what looked like chain mail as well. Despite this, people couldn't use functional metal weapons even if the edges are blunt. I mean, you can still stab someone with a blunt sword. However, they were allowed to use shields but couldn't shield bash. After witnessing someone get hit by a shield bash in the event (the guy who was guilty of it was kicked off the battlefield), I can see why it wasn't allowed.

It's not madness, it's impossible. Do you know how heavy sheilds are? There is no way you could possibly work both without exhasting yourself in less than a minute. You would not be able to move fast enough to block any attacks. The reason a sheild works is by showing that side to the enemy to cover yourself. With two sheilds what do you do? Stand face to face with someone leaving most of your body unprotected?

There are just so many reasons that double sheilds make no sense, and is literally impossible.

I mentioned it earlier but I'll say it again, people break bricks with their bare hands, it's not hard to imagine what someone could do with a shield or even a reenforced steel bracer.

If what you are saying is correct, then the entire shield mechanic in Skyrim is borked because it relies on timed blocking.
Besides, a character gets better at dual-wielding shields the more he does it... Might tire him out at first, but soon, (s)he'll be swinging around Roman Scutums (Known for their devastating shield-bashes, Dungeons+Dragons nonsense be damned) faster, more frequently, and for longer than anyone else can handle even two daggers!

This really isnt a totally bad idea. Get someone with a good swing, and use the edge of the shield, and you can cause severe damage.

Smacking someone in the face with a sheild isn't the same as trying to do the same with two at once, nor is it the same as daggers which require a great deal of agility to do damage.

I don't know what shields you have been using, but most are backed by wood and plated or trimmed with metal. They aren't that heavy, especially the smaller ones. Tower and Tear Drop shields are heavier, but aren't meant as a close combat defense. They were used as a defensive wall during sieges, able to protect most of the body from incoming arrows with minimal movement. Sure, they weren't light or anything, but a trained swordsman would have built up the muscles to effectively use one during a skirmish.

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You only use one at once, and with enough training/conditioning, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!

A shield varies in weight from between 1kg to 5kg.

5kg is really not that heavy.

totaly wrong. you can absolutely kill someone with a chunk of iron

stop bsing

''Size and weight varied greatly.''

-wikipedia (sourced)

Actually a shield bash can generate an impact of up to 40G... so even though you have armor and helmet your neck would break, is an instant kill.

Shields that I know of from my interest in history that were on any level functional in infantry battle were any where from 20 to 40lbs. The rare few exceeded that. Anything less than that is going to get crushed by a blunt weapon.

I think he believes real weapons and armor actually weigh as much as in the fantasy games. Seriously, no one can wield a +20lbs sword effectively.

There is also some stated uses of shields regarding shield bashes. I found this on bucklers

My ultimate dual shield maneuver would be named.... The Clapper. Bet you can not guess what it involves.

What does it involve :whistling: ? Sorry I just had to ask...

Also on the Aspis (the shield spartan hoplites used) was also regarded as an excellent thing to smack people with

And the boss on the Roman Scutum made that shield likewise brutally effective in combat... The mass of a shield+impact area of a mace = Hits like a TRUCK! (And don't say getting hit by a truck isn't lethal!)

The wiki article doesn't go into that much detail for the Scutum shield bashes. Spartan Aspis's have more detail on them and the 300 movies have shown an admittedly almost high fantasy capability of the shields.

Brilliance. Nothing short of perfection. Anyone who disagrees is obviously a communist.

I have a friend who is a communist and he would adore this.