Spartan's used their shields for killing CONSTANTLY, in fact it was considered one the things that made them such a deadly fighting force, they can kill you with their defenses

It occurs to me that Spartans tend to be our go to card for shield bashing.

Dat's just cause dey da best bra

Dat be da case mon, but da ya realle' tink ya ca' makeh me talk ta ya in dis manna'?

....... :unsure2: ja?

You reminded me of a stereotypical Jamaican accent for some reason...

... if this were about another famous Fantasy game, I'd suspect I was hearing a Troll accent <_<

Now ju just bein racist

Beware da voodoo.

edit: Let's get back on topic shall we? Bludgeoning people to death with arrow-catchers.

I think the topic's subtitle causes people to instantly think of Spartans...

I'd imagine. Anyone else want to muck about through wikipedia for info to support our arguments over the internet?

Pretty sure you won't be able to do this. <_<

I seriously don't see what would be able to do with 2 shields in this game instead of 1.

smack people to death twice as fast?

Poor bastard's body fell into the gaping throat of the world, foreigners know nothing of our world. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Nord: Calm down Bro, lets head back in and get a few drinks.
Frustarated Nord: Hah...hah...k.

I'd imagine you'd have to bash an enemy recover from the recoil, and then bast again, which you could do with one shield. Unless of course, there's some sort of a chain combo system.

Who needs that when you have this. Note this is an actual type of shield used by the Scots in the years of William Wallace.

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/composition/attachment/f4ee3937494039717558d47ebe0edf29/533895/scottish_targe.jpg%3Fthumb%3D1&sa=X&ei=mCj8TePCHYPUgQevvLzeCw&ved=0CAQQ8wc4DQ&usg=AFQjCNHhMaYG0em4IsMQaeA-reybTqMXmg

http://www.mercwars.com/shieldtypes.shtml YOU are bsing. Weight varies greatly from 3 pounds to (at the very most, as my source below testifies) 22 pounds. That is a rather large variance.




Obviously your interest in history relies on sources of ill repute and a lack of your own experience.

Take a look at the website linked in the BS. The "Heaviest roman scruta found so far weighed 10kg" http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=16941.0 20 to 40lbs? Something smells like a bull on laxatives, to me.

take care to note that the people who say how much a shield weighs who own one states a weight UNDER 10 lbs. Take care to note that the heaviest roman scruta found was 10kg, and the romans had one of the most effective militaries that mankind has ever seen.

Daggers do not require a great deal of agility to hurt someone with. They require someone to be able to punch. If you are fighting with a dagger against someone with a dagger, the first rule of combat is that you are going to get cut. (Source: Personal experience with a medieval combat group, who were teaching people how to defend themselves if someone attacked them with a knife in a modern context)

I forgot the name but there is one traditional weapon in India, that combines bladed knuckles, small shield with sharpened edges and gauntlet
Give me two of those (for left and right hand) and watch my enemies run in fear
(especially if taking into consideration, that I have basic training for using shields as offensive weapon)

But if serious I would like to see differences between bucklers and tower shields
For example buckler could protect only at 50% rate of same material tower shield
but while bashing, it could inflict same damage (due to sharpened edge) as same material dagger (at slower rate though)
Tower shield bashing shouldn't inflict much damage (close to none)

One thing to add to that is that the tower shields should have a greater chance of staggering or knocking down an enemy, due to their size and weight.

Demon's Souls did it, and it was funny enough.

well.. you could make the Spellshield "class" using spell on one hand and shield in the other
kinda like the opposite of being a Spellsword

Which is why the tactic was so widely used...

It would be quite effective in the game. In real life where someone could just tackle you to the ground and stab you, no. In game where you could block attacks with a shield against both a left handed and a right handed fighter and counterattack without leaving your guard open, it would be very effective.

According to Uncyclopedia it was, but it was found to be so effective that international militaries agreed not to use dual-wielding shields, just as modern militaries agree not to use nerve gas and nuclear weapons against each other.

Furthermore, no record of such dual-wielding shields exists, because the ancient societies were afraid that if the word got out about its devastating effectiveness, it would lead to far bloodier conflicts in the future. So, they stamped out all mention of Dual-shield tactics to protect their posterity!