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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:43 am

Then why would you need 2 bows to kill someone in one shot?

because you gotta be like really really high in bow for that to happen, and even if you are overkill isn't so bad, it can't happen anyway
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:45 pm

Love the idea of dual wielding spells.
But I really don't like Dual Wielding weapons. It's stupid and unrealistic to me.
But hey, that's just my opinion.


No offense but fighting 'florentine' is allowed in http://www.ehow.com/way_5692935_sca-sword-fighting-techniques.html with 2-broadswords no less. Now magic is unrealistic and so is swinging a (20) kilo warhammer. Its a fantasy game and duel wield was a heavily requested feature.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:29 pm

That would depend on your opponent's weapon. I don't care how skilled you are, your not going to effectively block a war-hammer with two blades.



The block for that is DON"T be in it path,.. it called move lol

And you need to be good
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:23 pm

It feels good to be someone who isn't bugged by something as trivial as the existence of a combat style. You guys who cringe whenever you see something like dual wielding, I pity you :P

Oh and as for objects being heavy thus impractical, A: in a fantasy setting, people can be and most often are much stronger than people in real life, B: magic can possibly be used to enchant items to make them lighter, and C: materials are not the same in our world as it is in fantasy, and some outright do not exist (I dare anyone to find elven metal in our world :P), so theoretically, certain weapons can be crafted and have a much lighter weight than one might expect.

Just throwing that out there. I'm looking forward to dual wielding :happy:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:37 pm

They really were light. I was quite surprised myself when I saw that, and even more surprised when I wore a Roman armor in a museum (Made with their techniques, shield and everything) and felt like I was carrying as much weight as my typical day in uni :biggrin: (well truth be told it wasn't the weight that impressed me, but how mobile your upper body was while wearing it.. but that's another topic)

All I can do is link to those. If you look at the average weight it's about 1.5 kilos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_sword

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_sword

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword


Have you tried holding one of those at arms length,..

It's not all the sword weight,.. theres an unreal amount of energy used up swinging that weapon and most fights in the dark ages would have been round 5 to 10 min before both parties backed off to
get wind id they lasted that long weilding 2 of those would shorten your effort to 5 min max meaning the single handed weapon user only has to stay out off your way then nail your butt while you try
catch your breath,.. A roman sword is aproxx half the length and designed for stabing movements back and forth fron behind that sheildwall a Nose sword was aprox 20 to 30 inch long and much harder
to control while swinging,. As an ex dark age living history/reenactor I've been there done that and come off the field shaking,.. it's not as easy as the movies make it look.


edit,..

Thats if your looking for realisim in your game or your happy doing the WOW thing with 2 20lb waraxes at 3ft 6 long
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:38 pm

Love the idea of dual wielding spells.
But I really don't like Dual Wielding weapons. It's stupid and unrealistic to me.
But hey, that's just my opinion.


Haha, I'm not hating on your opinion..... BUT, i find it kinda funny that you think dual wielding weapons is unrealistic, but shooting magic out of your hands isnt. lol
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:17 pm

Looking at some of the concept art I'd bet that you will be able to dual wield a staff and a longsword. If this is the case I'm gonna go Gandalf some dragon ass!! :celebration:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:01 pm

Kia Ora


Would they maybe do it simalr to OB? you can carry a sword and sheild and still cast spells

Your sheild hand just extends out and the spell is release
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:59 pm

Kia Ora


Would they maybe do it simalr to OB? you can carry a sword and sheild and still cast spells

Your sheild hand just extends out and the spell is release


Nope, it's confirmed that spells equip just like weapons.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:20 am

I'm dual-wielding hand crossbows with an extradimensional (read: magic) autoloader that can shoot multiple bolts simultaneously in a semi-circle. The bolts are rigged to explode upon piercing an enemy's flesh or armour.

It's gonna be awesome.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:33 pm

Hey, the dwemer made steam mechanisms, I can imagine a semi auto cross bow using steam, the chinese did it with just wood Cho chuk nu or something (I know the spelling is awful...).

That said, my top picks:

2 spells (Master mage spewing death from both hands, any questions? Well, yes depends on how hard it is to switch via hotkeys..)
Sword spell (Telekinesis / Long sword - spell sword literally)
2 daggers (If you're going to go up close, do it well)
Shield/Spell (Come on shield bash then grab the guy with shock touch spell)
Shield/Sword (Classic, though I'd love an arm shield that left the hand open to move)
Dart / Spell or Dagger (Toss the thing, nail the guy, and finish him. Ultimate assassin move.)
Crossbow/Spell (Bolt + butt stroke + electrocution/telekinetic blast, preferably near a cliff)

Stupid/Amusing
Two Crossbows (One shot, could be very funny)
Two shields (small one with a spike as offense option?)
Two throwing weapons (just throwing an obscene amount of crap around)
2 summoning spells
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:27 am

Hey, the dwemer made steam mechanisms, I can imagine a semi auto cross bow using steam, the chinese did it with just wood Cho chuk nu or something (I know the spelling is awful...).

2 daggers (If you're going to go up close, do it well)
Shield/Spell (Come on shield bash then grab the guy with shock touch spell)
Shield/Sword (Classic, though I'd love an arm shield that left the hand open to move)
Dart / Spell or Dagger (Toss the thing, nail the guy, and finish him. Ultimate assassin move.)
Crossbow/Spell (Bolt + butt stroke + electrocution/telekinetic blast, preferably near a cliff)

My combat pragmatism agrees with you whole-heartedly.

Chu-ko-nu. It still requires two hands though, since you need to move a lever back and forth. My extradimensional pocket gives me an excuse for freeing up my other hand AND allowing me to shoot more than one bolt at the same time: as opposed to somehow splitting the bolt, it shoots out of the pocket. Nebulous "It's magic" excuse, go!

I'd dual-wield shields too, but it's hard to parkour around with those.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:30 am

One-on-one, I would definitely go with 2 swords against 1 sword and shield.
Don't confuse "taking blows" with defense.



I don't, as can be shown in an earlier post. A Shield still gives you much much bigger room for error.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:11 pm

haha yes, in the united states it happens to be the fastest growing sport, its fast full contact a mix between hockey and soccer... also its been around for about a century.... where are you from?



It is not the fastest-growing sport in the US.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:19 pm

Finally, dual wielding. It was about time.

About Spells it would be great to be able to combine them likevas an example from Dragon Age: Grease + Fire = A big area on fire. I am certain Bethesda could make some creative ideas.

edit: After reading the rest of the thread I have to laugh, very hard laughing. Dual wielding, used for real on Earth history is stupid and unrealistic, but casting a FIREBALL from one's fingers or fighting DRAGONS isn't! :rofl: :facepalm:
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:02 am

Coolest duel wield ever but non jedi would find themselves limbless if they attempted it. lol.

I'll say this one last time as clearly as i possibly can.

Duel wielding does not always equal duel attack.

I can dual wield anything i can hold in one hand. 20lb dumbbells for instance. I might be able to hit you with either one but chances of me hitting you with both are much slimmer. If i can hold a longsword in one hand and a shield in the other and use either one independent of the other then that is no different then using another longsword in place of the shield and using either one independent of the other.



You can choose to make the font as big as you want, but you can attack with both swords (weapons) either simultaneously or in a flurry. Trying to rationalize it is different than actually doing it. I may be biased because of Wushu, but against someone with a sword and a shield, I'd take my 2 broadswords every time.

As for implementing it in a game with just one button (for the consoles) , it would be simple to implement a 2-strike flurry; 2 buttons at the same time for a dual side high-low strike, button A first then immediately button B for an overhead flurry/simultaneous strike, etc...
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:49 pm

I'm dual-wielding hand crossbows with an extradimensional (read: magic) autoloader that can shoot multiple bolts simultaneously in a semi-circle. The bolts are rigged to explode upon piercing an enemy's flesh or armour.

It's gonna be awesome.


Well, the Chinese created a crossbow with an semi-autoloader. The bolt would drop in place, and a small crank would set the bow.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:50 am

Dual wielding spells sounds fun, but weapons not so much. I think that having dual weapons will only encourage fights like those in Oblivion at high levels, where two enemies just stand and smash at each other for ages until one falls over.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:33 pm

A 2 second massive "Jump" spell in one hand and a 2 second massive "Slowfall" spell in the other. Gonna leapfrog my way across Skyrim in style.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:46 pm

Dual wielding spells sounds fun, but weapons not so much. I think that having dual weapons will only encourage fights like those in Oblivion at high levels, where two enemies just stand and smash at each other for ages until one falls over.

I don't see how adding more ways to damage your enemies would make the fight last longer?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:38 pm

Sword and fire spell.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:38 am

So one item in each hand... known to be used historically, and in modern combat recreations = unrealistic

Using magic = realistic


It is unrealistic if, for example, they make wielding two maces useful. In real world that would be instant death. Magic, in a world where magic exist, is something normal. But dual wielding wouldn't change from our world to Tamriel...

I think that dual wielding could be interesting if you can use a main weapon like a longsword or a dagger in the right hand, and a dagger or maybe a shortsword, mainly for protection, in the left hand.

Anyway, I'll use sword and shield. Shield bashing sound great to me.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:55 am

I don't see how adding more ways to damage your enemies would make the fight last longer?


In Oblivion, you had fights where the combatants just slugged away at each other for about a minute until someone's health hit zero. In reality, you have fights where the first person to get a decent hit in probably wins. Dual wielding, with a presumed emphasis on damage and a defence fail, favours the former. A shield, protection, hfor the purpose hof, favours the latter. There's a reason why most soldiers up to the medieval period used shields.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:58 am

You can choose to make the font as big as you want, but you can attack with both swords (weapons) either simultaneously or in a flurry. Trying to rationalize it is different than actually doing it. I may be biased because of Wushu, but against someone with a sword and a shield, I'd take my 2 broadswords every time.

What are you on about bro? I'm arguing with people saying duel wielding two longswords is completely unrealistic and doesn't belong in the game and my rationalization is that not 100% of the combat is going to be duel striking.

What did you do? Skim through this thread and stop on my giant text? Try reading the whole thread before jumping in the middle of a debate.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:35 am

Duel wielding shields?
I'll take 6!
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