dual weilding sets

Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:35 pm

If I ever use a dual-wielding character they will probably just use a sword and dagger, though maybe my Barbarian character will use two axes. I'll just have to wait and see exactly what it's like in-game. ^_^
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Anthony Santillan
 
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:07 am

What are you on about bro? I'm arguing with people saying duel wielding two longswords is completely unrealistic and doesn't belong in the game and my rationalization is that not 100% of the combat is going to be duel striking.

What did you do? Skim through this thread and stop on my giant text? Try reading the whole thread before jumping in the middle of a debate.



Did you write this?
I can dual wield anything i can hold in one hand. 20lb dumbbells for instance. I might be able to hit you with either one but chances of me hitting you with both are much slimmer. If i can hold a longsword in one hand and a shield in the other and use either one independent of the other then that is no different then using another longsword in place of the shield and using either one independent of the other.


If you didn't. my apologies.
If you did, handling a shield and a sword vis-a-vis handling 2 swords is very different. The advantage to dual wielding weapons is that you can attack simultaneously with both weapons, or at the very last in a flurry. Any other way of striking while using 2 weapons would nullify the 2-weapon advantage. The changes of hitting someone with simultaneous strikes or flurry dual weapons actually increases.

Now, the shield can be used to strike, but it needs to be fairly up-close to be effective, but that is a different motion. With 2 swords, you can strike in the same motion, whereas an effective blow with sword then shield would require 2 different motions.

As for implementing in the game, obviously for keyboards is not an issue due to the number of keys available. So, it can be something like:
A : flurry (one after the other) from the side
A-A : flurry from the side
B - simultaneous left-to-right
B-B : simultaneous from above
C : block
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:39 pm

To those of you who say duel wielding is unrealistic, have you NEVER seen star wars? They duel wield all the time and lightsabers are pretty much long swords.


Hah yeah I was thinking that too but lightsabers are pretty you know....light.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:21 pm

Nope, it's confirmed that spells equip just like weapons.


That doesn't mean they can't have exceptions to the rule. I'm sure they'll have a way for bow users, and 2h weapon users to cast spells in addition to sword and shield users.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:01 am

A frost spell and a defensive spell
Defense: 3 second 100 shield spell
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:47 pm

I hopee we can get a perk that allows us to Duel Wield Great weapons (two handed weapons) .


I think this should be very very hard to get as it would seem unbalanced, like a lvl 50 perk :o.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 am

If you did, handling a shield and a sword vis-a-vis handling 2 swords is very different. The advantage to dual wielding weapons is that you can attack simultaneously with both weapons, or at the very last in a flurry. Any other way of striking while using 2 weapons would nullify the 2-weapon advantage. The changes of hitting someone with simultaneous strikes or flurry dual weapons actually increases.

I'm well aware of that. Yes I did say that but you took it out of context. The context of my statement was to illustrate the point that duel wielding swords IN THE GAME would be no less realistic than using a sword and shield. That's is how the whole debate got derailed in the first place with people bringing real life into it and ignoring the fact that real life mechanics DO NOT wholly and perfectly translate into a game.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:16 am

I'm probably gonna tackle it Cervantes-style and use a longsword and a shortsword.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:35 am

seeing how they said they changed the fighting style quite a bit then maybe when you dual wield two swords instead of being able to just stab and slash both at the same time, it might have a fighting style of its own consisting of spin, X block, ect
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:56 pm

i'd like to work in two long blades eventually, or a long blade and a war axe, though if I find a short sword worth using I might employ it, even if i have to make my own.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:28 pm

seeing how they said they changed the fighting style quite a bit then maybe when you dual wield two swords instead of being able to just stab and slash both at the same time, it might have a fighting style of its own consisting of spin, X block, ect

Given the ability to wield both weapons and magic at the same time really makes me think we will have independent attack buttons, one for left and one for right.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:59 pm

I think this should be very very hard to get as it would seem unbalanced, like a lvl 50 perk :o.


No, no, good god no this isn't WoW, kids!

I love dual-wielding, but only because it is believable that one-handed weapons could be used in both hands in a variety of fighting styles.

This however, breaks that down completely.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:18 am

If you can dual-wield shields...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yzQk-68rGo&feature=channel
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:34 pm

I think that it would be cool if you can do punchhing combos....go Ali Muhammad on their asses
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:36 am

Haha I want two shields. If it can't be done, I'll mod it in myself. One way or another, I'll be a big burly nord in heavy armor with a shield in each hand serving as both attack and defense.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:51 am

If you can dual-wield shields...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yzQk-68rGo&feature=channel

“Now no one after lighting a lamp covers it over with a container, or puts it under a bed; but he puts it on a lampstand, so that those who come in may see the light." - Luke 8:16 :teehee:


edit: For those who didn't get it (including myself) -- If you can dual wield shields... those who come in may see the light -- i.e. they become pacifists as well :)

Totally off topic...

But seriously: I'd dual wield broken whiskey bottles.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:50 am

Pick Axe and short sword combo to get close and personal. :hubbahubba:

Seriously though, if dual wielding doesn't really affect attack patterns (which I presume it won't) I'll just settle for a sword and shield.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:21 am

imo controls will be like bioshock 2 for console
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:52 am

It is not the fastest-growing sport in the US.

Yeah it is... According to Us news and world report. Also from my own experience it's rapidly growing MLL is all ready bigger then MLS. This is entirely OT though
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:22 pm

I want a spear in one hand and a shield in my off hand. I pray that I can do this. Hoplite!
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:31 pm

Love the idea of dual wielding spells.
But I really don't like Dual Wielding weapons. It's stupid and unrealistic to me.
But hey, that's just my opinion.


What? Unrealistic? It's been done since the dawn of war, so I'm not sure what's so unrealistic about it.

Dual wielding 2-handed weapons, yes, that shouldn't be possible cause, well...they're 2-handed and you don't have 4 hands.

Dual wielding spells doesn't even make sense. In reality you're just casting two different spells right after each other, there's no dual wielding about it. Spell with one hand, shield/sword in the other, fine.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:56 pm

i just thought about something more useless than dual wielding shields, dual wielding to torches. haha
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:17 pm

What? Unrealistic? It's been done since the dawn of war, so I'm not sure what's so unrealistic about it.

Dual wielding 2-handed weapons, yes, that shouldn't be possible cause, well...they're 2-handed and you don't have 4 hands.

Dual wielding spells doesn't even make sense. In reality you're just casting two different spells right after each other, there's no dual wielding about it. Spell with one hand, shield/sword in the other, fine.


You very well know what I meant with dual wielding spells. No need to get witty.
Also, I'd highly appreciate it if people would stop replying to my post, simply because It's one of the first. Go bother someone else. :thumbsup:
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:22 am

You very well know what I meant with dual wielding spells. No need to get witty.
Also, I'd highly appreciate it if people would stop replying to my post, simply because It's one of the first. Go bother someone else. :thumbsup:


Along these lines (sorry if this has already been covered), how will spell casting with 2 handed weapons work?

I imagine that one button is attack and one is block, but since there is (I assume) no longer going to be a "cast" button, how do we cast a spell when we have a two handed weapon equipped---or can we at all?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:00 pm

You very well know what I meant with dual wielding spells. No need to get witty.
Also, I'd highly appreciate it if people would stop replying to my post, simply because It's one of the first. Go bother someone else. :thumbsup:


If you don't want people to comment on your posts, either stop posting or start making sense.

I think dual wielding spells is silly and it only makes sense in terms of game play efficiency so you don't have to switch between spells. Dual wielding spells means you're basically casting two spells simultaneously, which I don't think is possible as you have to speak words and/or make certain gestures to cast a spell.
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