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bliviongate: :bolt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword

Read the 2nd paragraph. I dare you.

http://www.middle-ages.org.uk/longsword.htm

Meaning or Description sections

http://home.comcast.net/~sylvanarrow/longsword.htm

1st Paragraph

http://www.reference.com/browse/longsword

1st Paragraph.

There I tried again. Look at that I won too! :celebration:

Bring it on.

Also you have more chances of a critical attack.

So a lucky character with dual daggers would be crazy powerful.

That makes sense. So basically what would happen is that you can equip either a one handed weapon or a two handed weapon in one hand with a spell in the other, but a two handed weapon/spell combo would feel like a two handed weapon with a spell on the side, while a one handed weapon/spell would feel far more like a hybrid. I really think that could work, and now I hope that's how it is implemented.

Hardly, because in the context of the Elder Scrolls a long sword is a one handed weapon used in conjunction with a shield. Your argument isn't against Bethesda's use of two swords that they classify as one handed, it's with their classification of the sword as one handed. When you can bring real the world to the table without nullifying existing tried and true mechanics then I'll listen. Realism can only be taken so far in a video game.

No......That's reality....you're not necessarily better off using two hands but they were commonly held this way.

maybe bethesda will make it so long swords are two handed until you get a high enough level

ill probably use a destruction spell and a sword for the most part

Or if you have a certain strength.

same here. i love destruction magic

But as evert link has shown they weighed 1-2 kilos. Strength shouldn't be an issue. If anything, it should be skill related.

:facepalm: I love the way people draw attention away from the opposing point(or completely miss it) when they don't have a sufficient counter point.

Lets recap shall we:


It's an extreme misconception that dual wield automatically = dual attack. You can duel wield any one handed weapon but effectively attacking with both at the same time is a different story.


According to that logic using a shield renders your longsword ineffective. Try again.
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All was lost once this person started talking about real life and ignored the fact that in games a one handed sword is just that a ONE handed sword.
My point is valid and still stands unopposed.

I'll be using bow/invisibility, a combination I have grown quite fond of over the years. If I can't use a spell with a bow then I will just be using a bow, since they are my favorite weapon. (unless crossbows enter the mix. In that case, I will have quite a dilemma on my hands)

Just been watching The Last Samurai, which is why I want to plead to Bethesda to bring in the Dai-katana and Tantos that were present in Morrowind and to give them some Value (Unlike the Akaviri Blades that had a value of 0)

crossbow *crosses fingers* and a dagger

The best part of the dual wielding will be that I can choose which hand will be my dominant weapon hand. I am left handed, so it will be nice to have my dominate weapon in my left hand for a change. Its never been a problem playing, but its always been an annoyance.

I will most likely do the following mixes:

sword/dagger, sword/shield, axe shield, and bow/spell.

Longsword and shield
A quick-hitting dagger enchanted with weakness to magic/fire paired with a shortsword with a hard hitting fire enchantment
Shock damage in one hand demoralize in the other: oh how cute the enemy got through my lightning barrage time for it to run away in fear

Double crossbows.

There now we can have a dumb argument on that too.

2 daggers. one with disintegrate armor, another with absorb health.

Again, two long swords are possible to duel wield, NPCs may just be none living AI's in an Object Oriented program but they're intended to act like real people . But really, I'm not sure how many of us are actually viable to say anything without stupid to someone who does know how to fight. And I'm pretty sure bethesda would set up enemies that made sense, they're not retards, and they do have someone who knows how to fight helping set up the combat system.

To those of you who say duel wielding is unrealistic, have you NEVER seen star wars? They duel wield all the time and lightsabers are pretty much long swords.

it doesnt take a genus to realize that although theres elves, magick, and monsters in fantasy games , physics and basic principles of combat should be unrealistic as well. We shouldnt be able to walk upside down simply because the environment and creatures within arent 'real'

OK.. how does dual wielding being depicted in a movie with laser swords make it realistic? Lets say a film like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon had people jumping 1000 ft kicking eachother in the air. Would that make it realistic?