Duel Wielding Shields?

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:35 am

i say why not? i mean its just one of those things where you are like "hmm i wonder if i can do this?" and you do. then you say "dang thats really cool. this is the best game ever!".
then you never do it again, but its the thought that you can that makes it an amazing and immersive experience.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:20 am

I'm sure the dragons will be scared of the guy holding two shields.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:10 am

I've edited the topic to add a little of information from wikipedia about the uses of a buckler shield. Other shields that have been used as weapons also include a lantern shield. Everyone think for one second...if someone is good with their fists, but lousy with swords or magic, wouldnt it make a little bit of sense if this person would attack using something that could be swung like a blunt/hand-to-hand weapon?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:24 pm

whats so much different between dual shields and spiked knuckles on each hand? we arent specifically talking about tower shields here...maybe bucklers in each hand or small square shields to induce blunt force deaths.


The problem is it doesnt make sense. In actuality if i wield a onehanded sword and shield and you wield two shields- i can dance around you because the sword gives me reach. You wont be able to make an attack because there is no range to either of your shields. The same goes for spiked knuckles. My scimitars will cut your hands off before they get close. Unfortunately wow and diablo 2 make fantasy claims with claws and dual wielding daggers that dont have any realistics. Bruce lee vs. indiana jones. Lee goes for a kick, jones shoots him in the throat and laughs while he bleeds to death. Thats how ridiculous it is.

Thats another thing. What if you get surrounded, are you going to bash them to death with 2 shields. You will lose. This is not like the movies where the good guy wins in ridiculous scenarios like that.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:20 pm

but how would they make it where you can block and while holding a sword in the other hand? seems a lil extreme more realistic to give you the option but not very important i would rather More races areas or weapons and armors though i'm all for dual anything khajiit + dual dagger = :slap:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:38 am

The problem is it doesnt make sense. In actuality if i wield a onehanded sword and shield and you wield two shields- i can dance around you because the sword gives me reach. You wont be able to make an attack because there is no range to either of your shields. The same goes for spiked knuckles. My scimitars will cut your hands off before they get close. Unfortunately wow and diablo 2 make fantasy claims with claws and dual wielding daggers that dont have any realistics. Bruce lee vs. indiana jones. Lee goes for a kick, jones shoots him in the throat and laughs while he bleeds to death. Thats how ridiculous it is.

Thats another thing. What if you get surrounded, are you going to bash them to death with 2 shields. You will lose. This is not like the movies where the good guy wins in ridiculous scenarios like that.



If I understand you right, then what your saying is that no other option for offense should be offered than magic. As magic can be used as a projectile, then it would be usless to go at a mage with a sword sense they could just burn you to a crisp before you reached them? Your logic is flawed my friend.

Also, if you used one sword and one shield while I used two shields, all it would take to disarm you would be to grapple the sword to my body using my buckler (as that is one use of a buckler, if you know anything of real weaponry uses) and then my free hand could bludgen you to death with the other buckler as you try to release you only weapon from custody.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:55 am

Would be nice if it was usable mainly as a defensive tactic rather than an offensive one. Shield bash would have to do limited damage (maybe knockback at a very close distance, though).

Think about if there are 4-5 archers shooting away at you from a relative distance. A shield-walk with two large shields could let you approach them, or you could use the shields to hold your ground and run them out of arrows. That said, shield+sword would probably be more effective, but there's no real reason to not allow dual-wielding shields, other than having to make animations and stuff.

My point is, it's a nice little oddity to have around, but if it takes work or is taken too seriously, would probably be unfun.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:51 am

No. Whats next? Wearing a helm on each foot and throwing your gauntlets at people? :shakehead:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:05 am

If I understand you right, then what your saying is that no other option for offense should be offered than magic. As magic can be used as a projectile, then it would be usless to go at a mage with a sword sense they could just burn you to a crisp before you reached them? Your logic is flawed my friend.


Im not really into the whole magic thing so yeah your right. I dont use magic in any game i play. I dont play as the big guy with the axe or sword, or the mage with the spells. I play as the guy that comes up from behind and slits their throat while wielding a vampiric dagger. Like artemis entreri. Try that setup on him. He kill ya and play with your corpse.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:14 am

EDIT: Read up on bucklers and their uses if you think this is silly or unlikely to be used in real life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckler#Uses

The first thing I thought when I heard dual wielding was "I need two shields". I was not aware that bucklers could be used in this way, so having a realistic and practical way to use two shields is a definite plus. If merged into the unarmed skill, they could prove particularly interesting.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:59 pm

I'm expecting the shield bash move to be a block while moving forward while a shield is equipped. Since a block is already using both hands, there will be no (bonus to) dualwielding a shield. I also expect a bash to be a balancing (knockback) move rather than a damage inflicting one.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:57 am

Im not really into the whole magic thing so yeah your right. I dont use magic in any game i play. I dont play as the big guy with the axe or sword, or the mage with the spells. I play as the guy that comes up from behind and slits their throat while wielding a vampiric dagger. Like artemis entreri. Try that setup on him. He kill ya and play with your corpse.



hahaha, nice. of courrse if thats the way you play then you would have no use for any shield really. In practicality, any fighting style is better than anyother style in at least one way...except ofcourse if you are using a spoon and me a bazooka ;)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:28 am

The problem is it doesnt make sense. In actuality if i wield a onehanded sword and shield and you wield two shields- i can dance around you because the sword gives me reach. You wont be able to make an attack because there is no range to either of your shields. The same goes for spiked knuckles. My scimitars will cut your hands off before they get close. Unfortunately wow and diablo 2 make fantasy claims with claws and dual wielding daggers that dont have any realistics. Bruce lee vs. indiana jones. Lee goes for a kick, jones shoots him in the throat and laughs while he bleeds to death. Thats how ridiculous it is.

Thats another thing. What if you get surrounded, are you going to bash them to death with 2 shields. You will lose. This is not like the movies where the good guy wins in ridiculous scenarios like that.

Realism is stupid in fantasy games, especially after a certain power level. I'm sick of games saying "No, hand-to-hand svcks because it's historically inferior to weapons" or (You shouldn't be able to jump 50" (Proper answer: "You are already Dead.", or "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkW4tGuC-1w", respectively)

Also, http://privateerpress.com/files/products/khador/warjacks/devestator.png
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:49 am

hahaha, nice. of courrse if thats the way you play then you would have no use for any shield really. In practicality, any fighting style is better than anyother style in at least one way...except ofcourse if you are using a spoon and me a bazooka ;)


And neither of you, the spoon-wielder or the bazooka-wielder, has any advantage if the fight takes place in an elevator? ;)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:01 am

I want to dual wield my fists. The game would be so much better.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:01 am

And neither of you, the spoon-wielder or the bazooka-wielder, has any advantage if the fight takes place in an elevator? ;)



ZING! thats one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. You, sir, have made my day!
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:49 pm

And neither of you, the spoon-wielder or the bazooka-wielder, has any advantage if the fight takes place in an elevator? ;)

Actually, the Spoon Wielder has the advantage there, especially if said Spoon-Wielder is Vin Diesel. So... The original theory still stands!
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:43 pm

Actually, the Spoon Wielder has the advantage there, especially if said Spoon-Wielder is Vin Diesel. So... The original theory still stands!


lol

but really, lets get this on topic before it gets locked.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:42 pm

No. Whats next? Wearing a helm on each foot and throwing your gauntlets at people? :shakehead:


you say that like it's a bad thing :P.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:25 am

Yes, it can be done realistically so I see no reason why not. It would be cool for defensive characters.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:30 am

You could dual wield shields in Mount and Blade: Warpath and it was kinda snazzy, btw that game everyone should try out the combat system is pretty good INDEED.

Also shields would easily be smashed to peices in that game so 2 shields was kind of a nice trick, ir was a bug in alpha so they fixed it but it was interesting enough to make players make a big stink about dropping it.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:56 am

I really hope dual-wielding shields is in. Just once I'd like to shield bash somebody, knock them down, then proceed to shield bash them into OBLIVION!
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:22 am

Haha "Breaking Immersion" seems to be a big topic on this forum now. So much so that people seem to just say it about anything they disagree with.

How would the ability to equip two shields break someone's immersion into the game? If anything, it seems like if you clicked on a second shield and it was like "Nope, you're not allowed to do that. It's impossible to hold two shields in real life.", that would be a little more 'immersion-breaking'.

That being said, I don't care.

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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:47 am

You will lose. This is not like the movies where the good guy wins in ridiculous scenarios like that.


So the part where you travel to hell, charging through an army of demons; THAT doesn't count?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:09 pm

Actually, the Spoon Wielder has the advantage there, especially if said Spoon-Wielder is Vin Diesel. So... The original theory still stands!

Not necessarily. The bazooka-wielder can use the bazooka as a bashing weapon. A blow from a bazooka would be more lethal than a blow from a spoon because of it's weight and size.

My view on the dual wielding shields topic is pretty much this:
i say why not? i mean its just one of those things where you are like "hmm i wonder if i can do this?" and you do. then you say "dang thats really cool. this is the best game ever!".
then you never do it again, but its the thought that you can that makes it an amazing and immersive experience.

Dual wielding shields does not need to be effective at all, but it would be awesome just to have the possibility. I'd totally try it some time.
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