Dunmer creation myth. : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri May 04, 2012 10:43 am

What is it? I keep finding references that their creation myth is closer to men's versions then other elves, but I can't find it anywhere.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:24 pm

I'm pretty sure their creation myth is documented in the book "Sithis". The Ehlnofex, the insult to Altmer, and how it talks about Dagoth Ur makes it seem so.

» Fri May 04, 2012 10:17 am

The line about being closer to men just means that they see Lorkhan as a hero rather than a villain. They are pro-Mundus.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:45 am

I find it strange that we don't have an actual Dunmeri creation myth. It's probably the same as the Altmeri myth, but forsaking the Aedra for the Daedra which in their eyes are more worthy of worship.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:30 am

The line about being closer to men just means that they see Lorkhan as a hero rather than a villain. They are pro-Mundus.

I thought it was only Vivec who was pro-Lorkhan? It seems that Lorkhan is too frequently associated with evil in Morrowind to be accepted as "good". I.E. The corrupting influence of the heart, and the instigation that because Dagoth Ur used its power to do evil, the heart was more attuned to him and he became more powerful than ALMSIVI as a result.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:38 am

I thought the Dunmer creation myth was contained within Vehk's sermons.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:10 pm

Lorkhan is intimately tied to the Psijic Endeavor, to which both Vivec and Veloth subscribed. His heart had a corrupting influence on mortals, certainly, but the Dunmer are sympathetic to his goal of creation regardless.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:49 am

Well, god radiation is quite hazardous to one's health without proper protection and usage.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:22 pm

But this is different from the Nords, for example, who view the Heart as a positive force.

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:31 am

But a Nord who used the heart would be just as likely to be corrupted as a Dunmer. In this matter, one's view of the heart is sort of irrelevant. And in Dunmeri culture, the heart is kind of played down since the Tribunes wouldn't want it known where their battery was stored, nor that they even had one.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:51 pm

Dunmer think lorkhan is a dikewad and a bastard. It just so happens their culture adores dikewads and bastards.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:44 am

But a Nord who used the heart would be just as likely to be corrupted as a Dunmer. In this matter, one's view of the heart is sort of irrelevant. And in Dunmeri culture, the heart is kind of played down since the Tribunes wouldn't want it known where their battery was stored, nor that they even had one.

But a "proper" Nord wouldn't use it for themselves. They'd make sure Shor gets it back, which they manage to temporarily succeed at during the Songs of Wulfharth.

» Fri May 04, 2012 9:07 am

What is it? I keep finding references that their creation myth is closer to men's versions then other elves, but I can't find it anywhere.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/tower

» Thu May 03, 2012 10:07 pm

People you have to remember that the dunmer were once altmer, they pretty much have the same creation myth for nirn, now the sermons speak about how the chimer changed into the dunmer which in itself can technically be considered a creation myth of how they changed races.

» Thu May 03, 2012 11:33 pm

People you have to remember that the dunmer were once altmer, they pretty much have the same creation myth for nirn

Aldmeri, not altmeri. In fact, all meri were once aldmeri, but it's hard to imagine the dwemeri have similar views on the creation myth as maormeri. M'eyap personally thinks it's very different.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:20 am

Well the problem is we don't know the dwemeri creation myth, they disappeared and their writings were either destroyed, lost or rotted away.

» Fri May 04, 2012 2:32 am

People you have to remember that the dunmer were once altmer, they pretty much have the same creation myth for nirn, now the sermons speak about how the chimer changed into the dunmer which in itself can technically be considered a creation myth of how they changed races.

The Imperials and Nords were once Nedes but one of them hasn't got a creation myth. Just because they were once similar doesn't mean they are now.

» Fri May 04, 2012 9:10 am

Dunmer are the Elves answer to Redguards. Where redguards are the only humans to, as a main point of their culture, see Lorkhan as a evil trickster figure. Dunmer, instead of seeing the world as a prison and Lorkhan as a monster, see the world as a sort of "testing ground" with their novel idea of a religion-based moral code and Lorkhan as the one who made their test, and therefore their success, possible.