Dunmer (Dark Elf) ~Discussion~

Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:49 am

One thing to keep in mind is that the voice over dialogue in the E3 footage could be temp tracks.

So far the only confirmed Dunmer voice artist is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm1BGVfqWC0&feature=youtu.be&t=1m34s
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:55 pm

Indoril and Dres most certainly still practice slavery. They now hold what is left of Morrowind.

And I think being cursed by a daedric prince because your leaders were kinslayers and oathbreakers would have a pretty profound effect on racial identity. You wouldn't continue to be happy-go-lucky if your skin suddenly turned ashen and your eyes red.

As a race dunmer live with guilt over what their ancestors did, and its written right on their body. They are defiant of the gods. They are xenophobic and hostile to anyone they don't respect. They believe themselves superior to all others because of the trials they have overcome.

The curse changed them, in more ways than just appearance.


Wasn't it house Dres which sided with Helseth and abolished slavery? Causing a civil war which they eventually won. Besides, the Dunmer don't really live in Morrowind anymore as far as I know.

In a shrewd political maneuver, King Helseth, representing his own house of Hlaalu, formed an alliance with House Dres. Subsequently, he renounced the slave trade, setting the remaining Houses of Indoril and Redoran against him in a bloody civil war. Helseth emerged from the war battered, but without the loss of his essential powers, leaving the slave trade generally destroyed, and slavery without a foothold in all of Tamriel, although the practice persists in remote areas away from Mournhold.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Slavery
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:21 pm

like the morrowind skin tone better
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:19 am

One thing to keep in mind is that the voice over dialogue in the E3 footage could be temp tracks.

So far the only confirmed Dunmer voice artist is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm1BGVfqWC0&feature=youtu.be&t=1m34s


Wonder if she is doing a voice for male dunmer or female dunmer or both.
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:44 am

Wonder if she is doing a voice for male dunmer or female dunmer or both.


She seems to be one of those rare voice actors who could pull off either gender.

Since we have 70 voice actors, I don't think we will have one person doing so many voices, compared to Oblivion's 14 voice actors.
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:51 am

i wonder...who'd like to see Divayth Fyr return?

he was 4000 years old in morrowind, what's two more centuries? :whistling:
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:22 pm

She seems to be one of those rare voice actors who could pull off either gender.

Since we have 70 voice actors, I don't think we will have one person doing so many voices, compared to Oblivion's 14 voice actors.


Yeah she could could probably do both hell her alone could have probably did all the voices for Oblivion. Also I am extremely happy about the VA count that annoyed me so much in Oblivion and Fallout 3 (New Vegas did a better job of it but it still had a lot of repeats). Really hope the raspy ashy voice is what they use for most of them and even the PC's grunts, shouts, ect.
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:25 am

I don't like that they all look "evil" now.
I mean, I like the look(Well, for the males, at least...) but I think it's stupid that every single one of them look like they're going to stab you in the gut and then go after the rest of your family to do terrible things. It is just terrible visual design in my opinion.

Remember that anything is possible with the character creator. One could easily soften a dunmer male to look more suave/aristocratic/not-demonic-looking
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:34 am

i wonder...who'd like to see Divayth Fyr return?

he was 4000 years old in morrowind, what's two more centuries? :whistling:


Fyr is one of the coolest dunmer around. Well, with so many getting wiped out, he may be THE coolest dunmer.

It would be awesome to see him with a graphical update, so long as he still wears Morrowind-style daedric armour.

I don't know why he would be in Skyrim though...
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:40 pm

Well, the women could look better, but all those presets are on the middle of the age slider ("standard") and we all know women generally age faster than men (visually)
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:38 am

Fyr is one of the coolest dunmer around. Well, with so many getting wiped out, he may be THE coolest dunmer.

It would be awesome to see him with a graphical update, so long as he still wears Morrowind-style daedric armour.

I don't know why he would be in Skyrim though...


he has a hobby of procuring dwemer artifacts, dwemer ruins are in skyrim. one plus the other = :whistling:
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:00 pm

Concerning voice actors, I'm relieved to see that there are more this time around. Lani Minella seems really talented, and could probably do the voice for many different characters.

Instead of just different voices though, they also need to focus on amount of lines. Have each VA record enough lines so that random comments or rumors don't suffer from "I saw a mudcrab the other day. Horrible creatures." syndrome. (Or, "Patrolling the Mojave wasteland almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.")
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:55 am

Instead of just different voices though, they also need to focus on amount of lines. Have each VA record enough lines so that random comments or rumors don't suffer from "I saw a mudcrab the other day. Horrible creatures." syndrome. (Or, "Patrolling the Mojave wasteland almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.")


Yeah that was pretty bad as well, but in comparison to more rumor lines or more VAs I choose the VAs hopefully Skyrim has both.
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:57 pm

I really like what ive seen of the dunmer so far,as someone that plays dark elf assassin type char's im digging the look.Being able to have voodoo skull face paint and have milky white eyes is freaking sweet and i think thats what ill be going for but ill fine tune the face alittle then the pre-set prob have a shaved head plus alittle wider jaw line..boom awesome. :ninja:
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:44 pm

Also did everyone notice how we can change our eyes in Skyrim? We got blind eyes and different shades and styles. Really liking all the stuff we can add to our characters. Nice to finally personalize my character even more.[/color][/b]

Yeah, I love those tattoos and blind eyes. Especially old skullface. They look exactly how I would have wanted them to.

I'm going to be playing as a Dunmer who is over 220 years old. I played his mother in Morrrowind, a prosttute who gave birth to him in a hut on the isle of Solstheim. http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr212/Qeros/MGEScreenshot10.jpg.

He was taken by a mysterious soldier (my character from daggerfall) and adopted by the High Ordinators of Mournhold, and served Almalexia in training from birth. In later years he undertook missions on Vvardenfell, and was seconded to work in the Vivec Ordinator guards.

He later served as a spy for the Great Houses in Cyrodiil, and fought in some minor battles during the Oblivion crisis, on one occasion meeting the Champion of Cyrodiil in Cheydinhal. The collapse of his Great House Indoril and the loss of the Almsivi hit him hard in this time.


I've been building his backstory up for a year, just to feel more in common with him. Hell, he didn't know who his real father was either.

How it will play out in Skyrim depends on what we find out about the 200 years in between, but I imagine he's going to be very bitter about the loss of his homeland, and will support whatever pro-Dunmer groups might exist in the game, being a former ally of the Cammona Tong. He despises Argonians and Nords, because of the events of the Nord invasion of the Redoran territories and the Red Year.
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:39 pm

tbh Dunmer females are pretty ugly.
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:12 am

There was a thread a day or so ago talking about the dunmer character presets, specifically the Tribunal hand symbol face paint on some of them. There's a male with a red version, and a female with a blue version, both on the forehead. So perhaps that means the dunmer are going back to some of their traditional belief systems after all that they've been through. I am tempted to use it on my own dunmer character actually. :smile:
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:07 pm

Although I won't be playing a dark elf, I like their new, more aggressive look. It fits better with lore and how they are perceived by the other races.

And hey, now you can live out your Drizzt Do' Urden fantasies lol.
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:57 am

There was a thread a day or so ago talking about the dunmer character presets, specifically the Tribunal hand symbol face paint on some of them. There's a male with a red version, and a female with a blue version, both on the forehead. So perhaps that means the dunmer are going back to some of their traditional belief systems after all that they've been through. I am tempted to use it on my own dunmer character actually. :smile:


I'm surprised the Dunmer still believe in the Tribunal, since the Nerevarine took Vivec's powers away over 200 years ago.
I'd have expected them to go back to Daedra worship. Especially Azura.
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:19 pm

I'm surprised the Dunmer still believe in the Tribunal, since the Nerevarine took Vivec's powers away over 200 years ago.
I'd have expected them to go back to Daedra worship. Especially Azura.


As someone in said thread pointed out, "You can't kill an idea." Of course we don't know the general attitude of the Dunmer after 200 years, but I would hazard a guess that some at least hold the Tribunal's teachings close to heart, whether or not the Three themselves are gone (and they pretty much are..).
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:13 pm

Well I wonder which Great Houses still exist in Morrowind?
I hope we can see again some Telvanni wizards, Port Telvannis placed on other side of Morrowind tidal waves from impact will not reach this place in full power, architecture based on living fungus and plants can withstand quakes and can be grown back in short time, Argonian invasion still add certain problems, but I believe wizards was powerful enough to protect self at own islands.
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:15 am

Well I wonder which Great Houses still exist in Morrowind?
I hope we can see again some Telvanni wizards, Port Telvannis placed on other side of Morrowind tidal waves from impact will not reach this place in full power, architecture based on living fungus and plants can withstand quakes and can be grown back in short time, Argonian invasion still add certain problems, but I believe wizards was powerful enough to protect self at own islands.


Nobody knows, I think House Hlaalu will be the strongest house now though, all other houses were very traditional, But Hlaalu is willing to adapt and survive by trading.
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:55 pm

There was a thread a day or so ago talking about the dunmer character presets, specifically the Tribunal hand symbol face paint on some of them. There's a male with a red version, and a female with a blue version, both on the forehead. So perhaps that means the dunmer are going back to some of their traditional belief systems after all that they've been through. I am tempted to use it on my own dunmer character actually. :smile:

But the Tribunal isn't really their traditional belief. It's a construct of the self serving Almsivi. Since they're dead now, it was expected the Dunmer would return to their old ways of daedra and ancestor worship.
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Post » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:26 pm

their brow ridges are more pronounced than the Altmers and Bosmers which gives them a more 20's villain vibe about them, but certainly not evil. Leaps-and-bounds over what we had before
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Post » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:51 am

But the Tribunal isn't really their traditional belief. It's a construct of the self serving Almsivi. Since they're dead now, it was expected the Dunmer would return to their old ways of daedra and ancestor worship.


Yeah, that's why I refrained from saying it was their oldest belief system. Those who have read the lore know that the dunmer were originally daedra worshipers. And yes, the Tribunal are broken, but again I think some might still hold on to the teachings. And Vivec is actually, from what I've read, not dead. He's.. Well gone. It's hard to explain, but the last we actually "see" of Vivec is in something called "The Trial of Vivec" on the Imperial Library site. I suppose a lot could have changed in 200 years, however, and he could be dead now. Also, after Sotha Sil and Almalexia were killed, everyone who you told that they were dead either thought you were a heretic or just insane, so maybe there are a few who believe they're still "around." The only problem I see with that disbelief continuing into "modern" day Tamriel is that they would have heard nothing from the Three for centuries, so a lot of people would probably start thinking that they really ARE gone. I don't know, this is just my two cents.
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