No one answers in the questions topic, I'll dare to ask again. Did the Chimer have 75% resist to fire? If they didn't how did the Dunmer obtain this ability? A very important thing to me, guys, pleeeeease.

Game Mechanics. just Game mechanics.

Azura's reasoning for the specific changes she applied to the Chimer to make them Dunmer is sometimes cited as making their skin dark as ash and their eyes like fire (or lava.) It would make sense that these effects would cause the Dunmer to get 75% fire resistance. Considering Chimer were really just a sect of Altmer, and that Altmer have a natural weakness to fire, I'd say it's a safe assumption that the Chimer did not have this fire resistance.

Velorien, thanks a lot. I've heard an idea the Tribunal is responsible for the fire-resistance (they gave this ability to the new kind as a compensation for Azura's curse or something like that). Does it make sense?

Maybe they took the credit...

I always saw it as Velorien did, that the Dunmer were cursed by Azura to be like if they were scorched by the lava of Vvardenfell, and part of it included the ability to live near the lava.

However, the Chimmer weren't an Altmer sect. They were Aldmer, which is why Vivec is so much more golden yellow (on his right side at least) than his altmeri friends.

Bah! Altmer, Aldmer, same thing. You're right though. They were described as having golden skin and golden hair, so I always imagine them looking similar to present-day Altmer, just like Almalexia and, as you said, the golden half of Vivec.

Well, Red Mountain wasn't active until about when the Dwemer started experimenting on the heart, so the Chimer didn't need a fire resistance... but the Dunmer would've if their native land was turning into a volcanic plane.

It actually pretty much is the same thing, at least out of the elves we've directly seen in games so far Altmer are the closest to Aldmer

The Aldmer and Altmer are about as similar as the Nedes and the Nords - which is to say there's no ultra-significant differences but thousands of years can make a difference in a people. The Aldmer were probably closer to the Aedric ancestors of the Elves than the Altmer are - the Altmer would hold them in esteem as an example of being near Godliness and being "pure-blooded". They probably personified all of the characteristics we associate with Altmer except more pronounced. Taller, slimmer, more androgynous, lighter of skin, even higher proficiency in magicka, etc.

The Ayleids were shorter and darker of skin. Not quite like Bosmer, but more "wild" or feral, even at the height of their civilization. We never see a full blooded Ayleid represented in any game, although many characters are hinted as having Ayleid blood. The closest thing we see to an Ayleid is the monstrosity called Umaril. It should be noted that Umaril is half-Divine as well as being tainted by powerful Daedric energies, plus he's covered in golden armor including a gruesome face mask. What we can ascertain of his physical status is that he's extremely tall and muscular, which is probably not representative of the Ayleids as a whole as other sources strongly contradict this. In all likelihood the Sorcerer Kings had unique, monstrous appearances and were a different breed of Ayleid. They ruled because of their strong Divine lineage and their mastery of the Welkynd and Varla magicks that sustained Ayleid high culture. That's my conjecture. It's never explicitly stated but we can put two and two together and make that educated guess.

The Chimer were probably between the Ayleids and Aldmer in height, and slightly golden bronze of skin like the color of Almalexia's skin and half of Vivec's. Saint Veloth is depicted as being nearly gigantic in stature compared to his "children", but he was probably part Divine like Trinimac and Umaril. A lot of the early Elven and mannish culture-heroes are depicted as being far greater of physical stature than modern races are depicted. A recent example would be the karstaag-men that MK depicted in ancient Skyrim. One or more of these races of mythic giants probably named the Dwemer "dwarves". They're all gone now, presumably extinct or having lost their stature over long generations of breeding with lesser mortals. It should be noted that a certain race of giants exist in Skyrim and secluded regions of other provinces of Tamriel to this day but their relation to the ancient, more sophisticated giants is yet to be verified. If they are related, they're a devolved and pitiful breed compared to their sires.

Right. I missed this. Thank you.

...and Sotha Sil before his body began to rot while he locked himself in his Clockwork City. (Why do people always forget Sotha Sil? )

Oh I remembered Sotha Sil, but he was a bad example of what Chimer looked like since the only time you see him, he is almost entirely covered in armor and is ripped to shreds.

Not to mention Sotha Sil took his darkened dunmer form with pride, and made the dunmer feel proud about the change from being golden Chimer to the blackened dunmer. Sotha looked full Dunmer, Vivec half, and Alamexia ([NUMMIT] her name!) looks like a Chimer.

I'm not aware of anything that actually supports that assertion.

books (forgot which), and that he's darkened in-game. has the skin tone of a dumner.

http://images.uesp.net//5/56/TR-NPCs-SothaSil.jpg Though I do recall reading that he was the one who embraced the change and lead the Dunmer in accepting their new bodies.

His skin is all dark because it has been decaying over time. Sotha Sil worked and studied non-stop, no rest, no cleaning, etc. He connected himself to his machine and his body began to waste away (that's why he doesn't have legs, they rotted and fell apart/into decay). At least that's my theory.

Oh, you remind me one more question I couldn't answer for years. What actually happend to Sotha Sil's legs? Has he lost them at the destruction of House Sotha or later, or he just didn't find them nesessary and replaced with some mechanism?

It doesn't help that the lighting in that picture is entirely too bright.

Tagging on, as someone who already tried proving that Sotha Sil wasn't a dunmer, you better stop now. His skin is dunmer.

And his body wouldn't have rotted away, until he died. But judging from when you got down to see him, he was killed only a few days after, at best.

Do you think you could find proof that his skin is dark like the Dunmer? Again, I remember reading that he was the one to embrace the changes and all that, but that was also a long time ago and he had since lost touch with the rest of Tamriel outside of his Clockwork City. He's a god, so he's able to change his form, maybe he ditched the gray skin.

Brightness is irrelevant to what his skin color is in the game. He clearly appears to have pale skin, even looking more like a Man with pointy ears than a Chimer with gold skin.



Also, I always assumed Almalexia tore his legs off.

http://www.scharesoft.de/joomla/almanach/images/6/6c/Sotha_Sil_Zeichnung.gif

Aren't his legs just folded, so we're looking at his calves and his thighs are behind them?

His skin is certainly dead-person white, not at all the color of a Dunmer. Unless you can find any quote, I'm pretty convinced it's not supported.

In fact, I think I remember making it up.

He's always depicted legless in tapestries, and he was in "The Art of Morrowind" book, but he was not written so in 2920 although its author would have had no firsthand or secondhand looks at any of the Tribunal.




Almalexia is depicted with a Chimer skintone while Vivec adopted a half and half. It stands to reason Seht completes the trio with Dunmer skin. He's also depicted as speaking to the Dunmer people of their new "gift", which would make more sense if he adopted it.