Personally, I dont think they would be giving more background on characters related to Morrowind (except of course Vivec, but he brings a whole bunch of new material), since the destruction of it also served the purpose of getting rid of our "TES III: Morrowind rocks all and nothing can?t top that!" kind of nostalgia.

Just a thought, really. But then, the Tribunal aren't the only ridiculously old once-mortals. Some vampires and Tiber Septim would surely qualify.

Divayath ain't exactly a weakling either. Oh god Divayath's probably dead!

Yes, most likely killed by the Tsunamis. That move was genius, look how shook up the fanbase is!

Divath could have conceivably survived. He was a very powerful wizard and could have teleported away, and besides he often was away on research and diplomatic missions in other provinces. It's not unthinkable that he survived Red Year. As for his daughters, his Dwemer and his Argonian warden, I cannot say. I would lament their loss as much as his, but as callous as it sounds he's worth ten of each (with the exception of Yagrum of course, whose death would be tragic indeed.)

As for the opinions and viewpoints of Sotha Sil and Almalexia, we have http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/2920.shtml which is a dubious but entertaining source, and http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/sotha_sil.shtml.

Character dialogue from Morrowind pertaining to the Tribunal and specifically these two individuals:








Other books in which Sotha Sil is mentioned:

2920, The Last Year of the First Era, The Anticipations, Vivec and Mephala, The Battle of Red Mountain, and the Rise and Fall of the Tribunal, Dagoth Ur's Plans, The Homilies of Blessed Almalexia, Kagrenac's Tools, Mysterious Akavir, The Arcturian Heresy, Varieties of Faith in the Empire, The War of the First Council, Nerevar at Red Mountain, The Story of Morrowind.

Almalexia:

The Story of Morrowind, 2920, The Last Year of the First Era, The Anticipations, Vivec and Mephala, The Battle of Red Mountain, and the Rise and Fall of the Tribunal, The Plan to Defeat Dagoth Ur, Dagoth Ur's Plans, Fellowship of the Temple, Kagrenac's Tools, 36 Lessons of Vivec, Nerevar at Red Mountain, Varieties of Faith in the Empire, The War of the First Council.


http://search.freefind.com/find.html?oq=sotha+sil&id=72791987&pageid=r&_charset_=UTF-8&bcd=%C3%B7&scs=1&query=almalexia&Find=Search&mode=ALL&search=all


I'm pretty sure neither of them either mention CHIM or are mentioned in its context. It's implied that Sotha Sil was seeking alternative godhoods through his sorceries and his machines. When we discover his broken body, his arm muscles had atrophied to the extent he looked famished. He was little more than skin and bone in an iron lung, attached to his computers by wires. His long, yellowed fingernails appeared to have been untended for well over a year. He probably was lost inside his quest to reshape the world from his control room and didn't notice Almalexia at all when she killed him. Another explanation is that he was dead already when she got there, and she perceived the silence of his death as mockery and attacked the corpse, breaking his mask.

Apparently Almalexia believed that after killing Vivec and Sotha Sil, she could regain her godhood by cheating with the Dwemer weather device and by killing the Nerevarine. She somehow believed, in her insanity, that this would renew worship of her and give her powers back to her. It's not an entirely unfounded theory, to her credit. There are many ways to achieve godhood as MK posted: http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/nu-hatta.shtml



Almalexia began as a mortal, acquired divinity, and stood against other god-heroes, even after losing her divinity. It's possible that had she succeeded in vanquishing the Nerevarine, she could have regained some form of godhood. It would have been different from before as its source would be different. It would possibly be weaker, but it would be a form of godhood. That's my hypothesis from the available data.

So basically, Hairdo, what you?re trying to explain is that these characters were developed enough for us to move on?

Almalexia not killed Vivec. After Dagoth Ur's death, she lost her powers. She then wanted to kill Sotha Sil, Vivec and Nerevarine. But, she killed only Sotha Sil, then was killed by Nerevarine. Vivec survived, and Nerevarine too. But what happened to the two (they are gone), I do not know. Probably Nerevarine is still in Akavir (as far as I know, he / she is immune to death and disease), Vivec fled to someplace or died.

Anyway, back to the topic of the Dunmer on Solstheim, how about that whole idea of a new, Breton-like race? If, in fact, the Nords and Dunmer of Soltheim mutally come together, what happens? Will they live in villages together, or will each group stick to the North and South coasts, respectively? If they live togather and intermarry, how many generations until this new Dunmeri-Nordic Breton race forms? What will they look like? Will they age at the estimated breton 200 year lifespan, or something else? The possibilities are endless, and now those people who desperately wanted a new race have something to cling to.

Haha, the whole "peace with the worm" thing has been bugging me ever since I found out what happened. Is it safe to assume that Solstheim is then the "New North"?
It seems pretty obvious though that it doesn't refer to any kind of change of worship though. Although the Loveletter is now apparently an alternate timeline, it seems apparent that Vivec has become the crucified messiah of the Dunmer. I wonder if that means he will return in some form?:P
God I hope they don't go all Breton. Horrible hairy drunken Nords and sixy Dunmer ladies? Or even worse! Noble Dunmer Warrier-Poet men and butch hairy Nord women!
I hope the new "love" that the Dunmer have discovered isn't physical.

In all honesty, I think looking at Japan after the nuclear attacks, and the Jews after the destruction of Jerusalem can be pretty misleading. The Japanese retained their sacred ancestral homeland, although they have been occupied, and in most places the Jews went they encountered hostility and outright discrimination and violence. The Japanese kinda went crazy, and the Jews curled up into their shells. The Dunmer, on the other hand, have apparently found a soft spot in the hearts of the Nords of Solstheim, so what that will mean is a mystery to me. Maybe it will be similar to the Jews who settled in the rest of the middle east, and coexisted peacefully with the locals, and later as part of various Islamic empires. In (then) Palestine, Jews and Musline coexisted for centuries. Zionism, advocating a return of Jews to Israel, and the founding of a new Jewish homeland state, was a foreign movement, beginning in Europe, because of the discrimination they faced in Europe. Of course, when that movement reached the middle east, it stirred up conflict there. Maybe something similar will happen to the Dunmer. Who's to say the Dunmer aren't facing discrimination in the other provinces. In many other respects, they are in a similar situation to the Jews under the Roman Empire. While many Dunmer do live in other provinces, they were always the ones who fled there to get away from Morrowind and it's stifling traditions. The new waves of Dunmer refugees are everyday citizens of Morrowind, happy where they were, and many are either members of the Temple, the Great Houses, and are highly fundamentalist, traditionalist and conservative, and will not be viewed by their new neighbours in the same way as previous Dunmer immigrants, nor will they view their new homes and neighbours in the same way. 200 years sounds long enough for a Dunmer Zionist equivilent to emerge, advocating increased Dunmer fundamentalism and nationalism.

I'm not convinced the Loveletter is alternate. It may be fully in-line, but future sight never has a sense of proper proportion, however it's handled, even when a letter is sent back in time. Again remembering the INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER'S LANGUAGE it could be thought that when a Dunmer says some equivalent to "the world will be destroyed" it means the same thing in their heads as 'Morrowind will be destroyed," which indeed it was. We as a community need to remember, like we did before Oblivion was released then mysteriously seemed to forget on a massive scale, that the perspective of the individual, extremely limited viewpoints of the in-Universe characters telling the stories will effect the way the story is told and facts are presented.

... say I, on two hours of sleep in the past now 36 hours. Be aware if in this or any other thread I say something mean I apologize in advance.

Thanks, your are right, it is important to remember that, I am extremely thankful to Bethesda as the inventors of a fantasy world for taking this into account when writing about, for, and developing their world. Too many fantasy authors write without a thought for historiography or perspective.

Which, after I read Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone, is why I got exited about Keyes writing IC. He practically gets off on that kind of thing because it makes for interesting plots and subplots.

I too doubt that the Loveletter is alternate. Think about it, the letter says that the Landfall can be diverted by love.

They tried to divert it by ripping souls out of innocent people and slaves.

I don't think what they did mitigated Landfall in the least, but further is exactly what the Loveletter was warning against. This is further supported if the Sul of the Book is the founder of the House of Sul, as if anyone would preach love-should-not-be-ignored to his children/future Housemates it would be someone who blames the entirety of Landfall on Vuhon not being loving.

Also, the Loveletter doesn't say the Landfall can be prevented; it says how to "avoid the perils of the Landfall". Maybe it's meant to show the Dunmer how to survive a Landfall which was inevitable.

Could it be that the whole thing about this love is actually "referring to love for Vivec"? As in saying that the whole disaster happened because the people stopped "loving" Vivec? (We see in Oblivion that many Dunmer seem to be turning towards the 9 divine or simply turning away from the Tribunal Faith) and that they need to rediscover this Love for him? We see Vivec playing a part still in the 5th era and still revered in that time and all.

As much as i detest Vvardenfell and the Dunmer being decimated like this i am curious to find out more about what happens to them.

I hope that some future game show what happened, not only with Morrowind, but with other provinces after Oblivion Crisis. Then we will know what happened in Morrowind after Oblivion Crisis, with the Dunmer, the Argonian and what they are doing in Morrowind.