I get the feeling that teleportation wasn't common in the Third Era; mostly used by mages and adventurers. It could be most citizens didn't have much contact with magic unless they had business with the Mage Guild or with priests.

The meteorite that made Arizona's Barringer crater was only about 54 yards across, according to the link below, and it left a crater a mile across and ten stories deep. It's said that a meteor hitting water is worse, because of the tsunamis that would occur. Probably the Ministry was bigger than what we saw in-game anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barringer_Crater

I'm reminded of the slaves' chorus from Nabucco, "Va Pensiero", though that was for the Babylonian Captivity instead of the destruction of Jerusalem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BZSqtqr8Qk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Va_pensiero

Just noticed this; the Dunmer in the novel is named Sul. In the Loveletter, the messenger is from House Sul. I wonder...

Hah, someone's in denial.

The Argonians are hardly unorganized, as they're united by their ties to the Hist. The Dunmer paid the price for underestimating them.

Oh, catch up!


I think we can safely say that emancipation was not good for the Dres. Whatever power sharing deal they made with Hlallu, its pointless when the Argonians emerge from the swamps and outnumber their old slavemasters ten to one.

Hopefully the Dunmer culture is not destroyed by this, but rather strengthened and diversified (similar to the mass migration that took place when immigrants from the Old World flocked to America in the 19th and 20th centuries).

It is certainly a shame that the once sacred land that they put so much faith and work into surviving and embracing has been totally demolished. Perhaps, like the Redgaurds and their Yokuda, they can find a new place to call home.

So I suppose, it's time to sail to the south and kick some Pyandonean ass! The Dunmer migrated to Morrowind thousands of years ago, they can migrate again!

Or maybe it's time someone besides the Nerevarine checked out Akavir. Maybe that would be too unknown for a possible land for emigration, though.

Perhaps Lord Nerevar had foreseen the Landfall and went to Akavir to scope it out. He could return very soon as a harbinger to bring his people to the new land.

To be devoured by a horde of hungry Tsaeci, perhaps. Be my guest...

I would assume so. After all, Landfall did happen, just the scale was off, likely in no small part due to the ingenium. I have a theory on the hows. As we all figured, the falling moon kept it's momentum, but was stopped by some kind of space-time manipulation spell (not hard when space-time is a living entity). The explosion may have managed to slow it down enough to keep the destruction from being as widespread as the community expected, or maybe we as a fanbase blew it out of proportion. Either way, I would assume some Dunmer would have wound up underground as well as diaspora-ed.


Destroying the fanbase's most generally beloved culture is just bad sense. Changing it is not. I would assume (until the second book and/or TESV I'll probably be doing a lot of assuming) that's what they'll do. Maybe even on Solstheim/Soulstheim itself.

Good points by everybody. It might almost be good for the Dunmer people that they've been forced out of their exclusivity; now the survivors will have no choice but to interact with the "outlanders". They might even build a strong community, make new discoveries in magicka, and so on. The price they had to pay was too high, though.

We really need a political map of Tamriel.
Is that too much to ask for, someone must have a political map, someone surely is keeping track of the developmet right?

Edit: Damn, I should learn to read a bit in threads before I post in them, but still, a present political map would be nice.

I have one in my head, I just need a bitmap of Tamriel's outline and I can mess with it until it's the new national boundaries.

I agree that I'd rather not see the Dunmer destroyed.

Made to suffer for a couple of centuries for their slave trading, xenophobia, and all-around ignorant ways, yes, but not wiped off the face of Nirn. Other races have had it worse by mere chance, after all.

I wouldn't say the Dunmer are "generally" the fan-favorite race. I'd say that Morrowind is "generally" the fan-favorite game, and that Dunmer feature prominently in it.

If anything, those cultures were homogenised, not diversified.

Indeed. It looks to me as though many of the Dunmer will integrate completely with either the Nords or the Imperials before long. Probably Imperials.

All the elves in Oblivion have the same voice, after all. If that's not proof of Imperial homogenization, I don't know what is.

I was thinking of an official one, but yours would be appreciated :goodjob:
I can't find any clear map, though and I only have paint on my PC, so making one would just come out as a mess and a lot of wasted time.

Mine'd wind up being messy too. It's basically erase the border between Argonia and Morrowind, remove chunks of Vvardenfell, make "the empire" cyrodiil, rebuild the Aldmeri Dominion, make Skingrad it's own area, and write a big "[censored] this" over the illiac bay regions.

http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/maps_tamriel.shtml

Here you go, plenty of maps there.

As for the Dunmer, if they ever choose to migrate anywhere, there are 4 known island kingdoms between Tamriel and Akavir. If they immigrated to any one of them, they could build up their strength for an assault on Akavir. But I doubt that will happen.

I hope the second novel will talk about Hammerfell and some of the other provinces. So far it's as many predicted on the forums: the provinces decided to be independent, and Mede has had to bring whatever land he can back to the Empire by force. It was interesting to read in the novel what his background was, although it was only mentioned briefly -- rising from officer to warlord to king of some of Cyrodiil to Emperor.

Hrmm...the only reference outside of BM, Elswyer, Cyrodiil, and MW was that Valenwood being incorporated by (what I assume) Summerset to make the Aldmeri Dominion, and that spying on the nords in Skyrim is something to dread.

I have a feeling the nords took a good portion of western Morrowind, now that the dunmer were driven away. Or they stopped invading, because there are no more dunmer to raid for their initiation rituals into advlthood, and summer festivals.

They only touch on what happened to Morrowind. The impression that I got from the Argonian invasion was that Argonia expanded her borders, but didn't take all of Morrowind. Or at least not occupying it.

I think it's more of an occupation by name, only. There's not too much of Morrowind left to occupy, besides blasted earth and boiling seas.

The book showed Vivec City as a crater lake with boiling water, but it could be not all of the province was completely burned over. Hopefully we'll see more of the mainland in the second novel. Still, I noticed that although the Red Year happened not long after the Oblivion Crisis, the water is still boiling 40 years later.

I'd imagine that'd be more due to geothermal activity at the bottom of the crater (It did cause the volcano to erupt). Kind of like a very, very big hot spring.

Probably. The book mentions that the moon didn't just disintegrate when it hit the city -- it dug a shaft down.