Dunmer on Soulstheim : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:15 pm

Penetrated right into the mantle, if such a thing exists on Nirn? Mmmmm.

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:09 pm

Good riddance! They knew there was an asteroid waiting to kill them all; they should have all evacuated from the island when the thing was. Though a ton of ebony was lost, noes!

The real enemy was that big rock in the sky. Heck when I did Morrowind I was all for cramming as much Dwemer Satchel charges in the rock as possible and blowing it up like in that movie, ARMAGEDDON w/ Bruce Willis.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:58 am

The real enemy was that big rock in the sky. Heck when I did Morrowind I was all for cramming as much Dwemer Satchel charges in the rock as possible and blowing it up like in that movie, ARMAGEDDON w/ Bruce Willis.

Heh, I'd have organized a pilgrimage where each Dunmer uses a pick to take home a little chunk of the moon. Over enough time, not much would have remained.

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:48 pm

Heh, I'd have organized a pilgrimage where each Dunmer uses a pick to take home a little chunk of the moon. Over enough time, not much would have remained.

Each piece, though would still retain the velocity it had as if it were part of the moon. So, in doing that, one could surmise that the problem could be worsened if the stones became unaccounted for and travelled across the land. However, I understand your thinking. (Then again, up until after the end of Tribunal and Morrowind's main quests, no one would have even thought that Vivec could die.)

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:53 pm

wellte Dunmer don't een think he's dead. they think Mehrunes Dagon is holding him hostage.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:55 am

Just thought I'd link this over. The Dev Maturin just posted this clarification about Soulstheim in the novel spoilers thread in TES General:

Just to make one thing clear: Soulstheim is a typo. Despite it being hard to believe that it got past us due to how often it appears... imagine all the things that didn't get past us that you'll never have to worry about.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:06 am

Just thought I'd link this over. The Dev Maturin just posted this clarification about Soulstheim in the novel spoilers thread in TES General:

What a relief.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:33 am

Each piece, though would still retain the velocity it had as if it were part of the moon.

This would have been know as the Great Mantelpiece Blight, as hundred of thousands of fireplaces throughout Morrowind would have been mysteriously and simultaneously destroyed as if by a sudden great pressure.

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:47 pm

This would have been know as the Great Mantelpiece Blight, as hundred of thousands of fireplaces throughout Morrowind would have been mysteriously and simultaneously destroyed as if by a sudden great pressure.

For whatever reason, I find this funny as hell.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:37 am

Well, I am ok with the fact that some Dunmer went to Solsthiem, but I am pretty miffed that most of Vvardenfell was essentially nuked.

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:29 pm

Well, I am ok with the fact that some Dunmer went to Solsthiem

You're welcome. The largesse of the Nords towards their ancient enemies is one of my favorite ideas coming out of Red Year.

but I am pretty miffed that most of Vvardenfell was essentially nuked.

Oops.

Then you *really* don't want to hear what happened to [NUMINIT].

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:29 am

You're welcome. The largesse of the Nords towards their ancient enemies is one of my favorite ideas coming out of Red Year.

Ooh. Forgive me while I go of into the corners of my mind to explore the ideas of Dunmer refugees rebuilding with Nordic assistance in a hypothetical future snowy title...

Oops.

Then you *really* don't want to hear what happened to [NUMINIT].

:sad: Aww, that's not fair.

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:04 pm

You're welcome. The largesse of the Nords towards their ancient enemies is one of my favorite ideas coming out of Red Year.

I wonder why the Nords wanted to help them. Maybe they admired their long-time foes and didn't want to bickering to end due to some cataclysmic event? Or maybe there's a prophecy involved somewhere.

Haven't read the book. One thing I liked about the in-game books is that you never know for sure what exactly happened, or how much is truth and myth. Knowing every little detail as The Truth in a 3rd person narrative following characters' adventures ruins the mystery.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:03 am

You're welcome. The largesse of the Nords towards their ancient enemies is one of my favorite ideas coming out of Red Year.

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It's good to see your post, MK. I'm a little surprised that the Nords on Solstheim would be other than sullen or outright aggressive toward the Dunmer, but it's interesting to find out differently.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:55 am

I wonder why the Nords wanted to help them. Maybe they admired their long-time foes and didn't want to bickering to end due to some cataclysmic event? Or maybe there's a prophecy involved somewhere.

Haven't read the book. One thing I liked about the in-game books is that you never know for sure what exactly happened, or how much is truth and myth. Knowing every little detail as The Truth in a 3rd person narrative following characters' adventures ruins the mystery.

It's good to see your post, MK. I'm a little surprised that the Nords on Solstheim would be other than sullen or outright aggressive toward the Dunmer, but it's interesting to find out differently.

"Only I am allowed to kill you" would be a great trope for that. Or maybe they've won their hearts over with the fearsome tenacity it takes to survive such an event as a culture? The Nords do seem to respect that kind of resolve.

Many in-game books are written in 3rd person omnicient, and I treat those like nonfiction books, some details may be off but the main events are solid. Think of it that way because in principle I agree, Alaisiagae, about the idea of having things be 100% factually true. However, according to the pre-release interview, Keyes understands the idea as well.

Also, ask a nonfiction writer about truth someday.

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:20 pm

This must be where the Dunmer begin to "know love".

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:42 pm

This must be where the Dunmer begin to "know love".

As I said in the earlier thread, it sometimes takes great loss to be able to do what is right. In the case of the dunmer, they rejected love, were nuked, and now must find it again. With the nords of Solstheim apparently going to help the new refugees rebuild, they may discover love again, and won't be so fractured like they were in the past.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:25 am

Yeah, and I think that kind of forgiveness in a fantasy is awesome. Chimer indeed.

Forgiveness in the sense Nords/Dunmer aren't for killing and argonians aren't for enslaving.

Our lord is High Alma Jaroon, of House Jaroon, whose city is the First City of the New North, where all who Went Under from Landfall settled and made peace with the Worm...
Then it talks about "we were not eighty and one separate people but one", and I think that means they came to Solstheim as one race and built a kingdom of many. I guess we'll see.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:02 am

im pretty sure "[censored], something just fell out of the sky and killed 1/8th of the world" will bring plenty of cooperation and good feelings amongst all. nothing quite like disaster to bring us all together. especially when said disaster was brought about because people didnt love each other enough :hugs:

i was just reminded on http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/briansarticle02.shtml. kinda interesting that both the dunmer and yokudans, both of whom deviated from their genetic world view, ended up nuked.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:40 am

Yeah, and I think that kind of forgiveness in a fantasy is awesome. Chimer indeed.

Forgiveness in the sense Nords/Dunmer aren't for killing and argonians aren't for enslaving.

Our lord is High Alma Jaroon, of House Jaroon, whose city is the First City of the New North, where all who Went Under from Landfall settled and made peace with the Worm...
Then it talks about "we were not eighty and one separate people but one", and I think that means they came to Solstheim as one race and built a kingdom of many. I guess we'll see.

Something just caught my eye "...and made peach with the Worm." By the Worm, could that have meant Shor, or the followers of Shor? Will this mean the dunmer will pick up a more Shorian view of the world, thanks to the nords?

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:11 pm

I don't think its a god, I think its the Nords. That is what happened.

lol, made peach

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:22 pm

I don't think its a god, I think its the Nords. That is what happened.

lol, made peach

Well the nords tend to be followers of Shor. However, by making peace with the nords, do they, by association, make peace with Shor too?

» Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:24 pm

The Skaal are not Shor worshippers, so I'd say no.

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:02 am

The Skaal are not Shor worshippers, so I'd say no.

What about the nords of Thirsk?

» Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:29 am

im pretty sure "[censored], something just fell out of the sky and killed 1/8th of the world" will bring plenty of cooperation and good feelings amongst all. nothing quite like disaster to bring us all together.

Such altruism is not often exhibited. I don't really get the "global village" vibe in TES. I'd imagine the other provinces would laugh their socks off and be glad that FINALLY the tribunal has gone belly-up, along with their xenophobic followers.