Duplication

Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:03 am

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Glitches

The original duplication bug is fixed.

Yet I can dupe right now, playing with all of the Oblivion/SI patches. Actually they changed it back to the scroll way. Been a while since I played SI. You can still dupe though and bind post 1.2 patch. Im literally duping right now. I agree that its not fun to cheat etc. but when your role-playing a guy that wears regular clothing for example and they get rid of the unarmored skill, I should be able to wear more than two rings. That's were binding comes in. You cant bind without duping, you also cant do all of the Masterpug tricks without it.
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:24 pm

Yet I can dupe right now, playing with all of the Oblivion/SI patches.

Vids, or it...
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:29 pm

:facepalm:

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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:53 am

Its an exploit or a cheat, not a bug. If it was a bug, then the patch would of eliminated it or made it harder to do, not make it easier. They actually went out of their way to make it easier to do. So even if it was unintentional, they liked it so much they kept it and made it 'better'. The perfect case of "Don't like it, dont use it." Your most likely not going to stumble on to duping on accident. Like I said before, its more than just duping. Its binding and all types of fun stuff you can do. Plus I never once called it a glitch.



Ah excuse me, I assumed you were the OP, silly me.

Now, just bbecause they didn't remove it, doesn' tmean it was intentional OR that they like it at all. And even if they didn't remove it intentionally may be because certain people (like yourself) have grown attached to it. But even if that's the case, never should they aim to include bugs/glitches/cheats or whatever in an RPG, it's boring and silly. And the whole dont like it dont use it is a terrible terrible arguement. The game should be designed to be it's best, including limitations. I wouldn't want to have a "insta kill your target" button either.


Oh and even IF they like it, I'm still against it btw.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:17 am

Ah excuse me, I assumed you were the OP, silly me.

Now, just bbecause they didn't remove it, doesn' tmean it was intentional OR that they like it at all. And even if they didn't remove it intentionally may be because certain people (like yourself) have grown attached to it. But even if that's the case, never should they aim to include bugs/glitches/cheats or whatever in an RPG, it's boring and silly. And the whole dont like it dont use it is a terrible terrible arguement. The game should be designed to be it's best, including limitations. I wouldn't want to have a "insta kill your target" button either.


Oh and even IF they like it, I'm still against it btw.

'Don't like it, Don't use it' is a perfect argument. Your not going to accidentally stumble on to it. This isn't a multi-player game. It hurts no one. Its ten times easier and takes less control to turn the difficulty all the way down. Now thats your "insta kill target button". Not duping/binding. I never understood why people cared how others played their own single player game.
Vids, or it...

Why would I need a vid? Everybody knows you can still dupe. It takes two seconds on google to see that you can still dupe.

Funny thing is I dont even really use duping a lot, or really ever. Im just against losing things, especially something as fun as duping can be.

Edit: After further review, duping apparantly is a glitch(or at least labeled that way at UESP), but obviously a necessary evil since they never patched it out. I see a dev lurking, maybe he can tell us if it was intentional?
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:26 am

I've just checked with version 1.2.0416, It doesn't work. I try to upload a video, but it will take at least an hour with my connection speed.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:15 am

I've just checked with version 1.2.0416, It doesn't work. I try to upload a video, but it will take at least an hour with my connection speed.

Im duping right now with scrolls. Not only that, but the page you linked to, even says you can still dupe with scrolls after all of the patches.
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Post » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:15 pm

Im duping right now with scrolls. Not only that, but the page you linked to, even says you can still dupe with scrolls after all of the patches.

Yes, with scrolls.
But you mentioned the arrow-duplication earlier, not scrolls.

It now takes one less step to do check it out: Equipt arrows(dupe number), punch, go to inventory mid-attack, select the arrows, drop item you wish to dupe.

Its actually one less procedure than pre patch.

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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:25 am

Yes, with scrolls.
But you mentioned the arrow-duplication earlier, not scrolls.

Yeah, I haven't played Oblivion in almost a year, just dusted it off and forgot about the third change in duping. I posted the second way of duping after the first patch. That isn't what we were discussing though. It was if duping was still in, which it is.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:55 am

Yeah, I haven't played Oblivion in almost a year, just dusted it off and forgot about the third change in duping. I posted the second way of duping after the first patch. That isn't what we were discussing though. It was if duping was still in, which it is.

But the original method is patched out, thus it wasn't intentional.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:20 am

But the original method is patched out, thus it wasn't intentional.

Yet they made it easier to do.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:36 am

Yet they made it easier to do.

Which one?

The scroll method is the same, and the arrow method is completely removed. :confused:
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:16 pm

Which one?

The scroll method is the same, and the arrow method is completely removed. :confused:

After the first patch they removed a step. Stop trying to back track though, you initially tried to say duping was gone, or something like that, since you only partly quoted me and that I should try and prove that its still in, which I didnt even have to do. Scrolls, arrows, it doesnt matter, its still in. Binding is better than duping anyway.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:37 pm

Scrolls, arrows, it doesnt matter, its still in.

True.

But my point is, they removed one method, which means it hadn't been implemented on purpose.


As for the scroll method

A/ They didn't know of it.
B/ They have stopped fixing the game very early, v1.2 is still buggy as hell.

I don't think you can prove that it was intentional.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:29 pm


I don't think you can prove your statement, that it was intentional.

Don't really have to. Intentional, unintentional, it doesnt even matter since they didnt even find it a priority to 'fix'. As long as Im given a way to bind, I dont even care about duping. Or bring back Morrowind style armor/apparel.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:22 pm

that glitch was my explanation of why every bandit had glass armor.. :D
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:29 am

Item duplication was fun after 500+ hours of gameplay when I already had done next to every quest available in several classes and birthsigns, and began to loose interest. That and the enchantment bug that made my character Overpowered.

It was fun.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:07 am

Awesome idea, OP!

I believe it would fit more as a journeyman or expert spell, seeming as the spell effect is very powerful. Maybe even master. The question is, what school?
But I would love to see a duplication spell in Skyrim, no doubt. :)
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:33 am

what about the paintbrush glitch? that was actually kinda fun, but i misused it a couple times...
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:10 pm

How is it a bug when it was intentionally put into the game? Its most likely going to be in Skyrim anyway.

IT WASN'T PUT IN INTENTIONALLY!

The morrowind bug worked entirely differently.
Saying that it's a feature because it wasn't patched is just dumb. Following this logic we could say that all bugs that were left in after the final patch are left in intentionally as well...
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:38 am

Why would I need a vid? Everybody knows you can still dupe.



Never even knew you could in the first place. But, then, I've only been playing for 3-4 years.

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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:47 pm

:facepalm:


Couldn't have said it better myself!

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Are you serious though? I mean there are two things that are troubling me about your duplication post.

1.) Duplication is a ridiculous idea whether it is used as a glitch or a spell IMO. Play the game fairly and achieve the items individually for what they are.

2.) Many other people have said it....... WHY would you implement a bug on purpose? :dry:
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:44 am

I'd rather not have duplication glitch in the game but rather more accessible items (yet not too accessible).
For example, I dunno if you can enchant arrows with magical effects but I tried to in Oblivion with little success, as my levels grew so did the enemies healths, so I had to start duping enchanted daedric arrows just to survive, the most I could find in most stores were iron arrows and crap.
So I had to use the dupe glitch from time to time with different items because it was horrible going to every damn store to try to find the right items.

So instead of an intended dupe glitch I'd rather want more accessible items.
Maybe just let us invest in the store a couple of times so it starts to have really good items. (should be costly though.)
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:52 pm

Couldn't have said it better myself!

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Are you serious though? I mean there are two things that are troubling me about your duplication post.

1.) Duplication is a ridiculous idea whether it is used as a glitch or a spell IMO. Play the game fairly and achieve the items individually for what they are.

2.) Many other people have said it....... WHY would you implement a bug on purpose? :dry:


1) Ridiculous how? Because it allows us to have fun filling a room with watermelons? or creating a staircase to the sky? And what is 'fair' in a single player do-anything-you-want rpg?

2) An easter egg reference to Oblivion comes to mind.
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Post » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:07 pm

DOUBLE POST....... sorry
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