In Oblivion voices took half of the DVD in space and now they say that they have even more voice actors and stuff. does that mean that the game will have less content than oblivion? i think this is a plausible conclusion unless they found a way to compress information some other way

PC version can be on multple DVDs
PS3 version can be on one Blu-ray
the 360 version will have to be heavily compressed.

I'm guessing Skyrim is going to be around 15GB.

what? that logic doesn't even make sense? more vioces=less content? and there have been games on more than one disk and content is all on one ESM file, which really isn't even all that big

More voices doesn't indicate more voiced lines. It just means more actors. The XBox version may just require a hard drive.

the question is ... has the xbox 360 compressing software been updated since oblivion?

@swarley oh yea on xbox 360?

no. if they have to cut content on xbox they also cut content everywhere else we know that already

They could make it like in the GOTY Version of Oblivion on Xbox 360.
There were 2 Discs, Disc one was the Game itself and Disc 2 was the Shivering Isles and KotN. You only had to install Disc 2 to play those DLCs.
They could do it the same way in Skyrim. Making 1-2 extra Discs for installing and the third is the realy important Disc to play with. Would work on all three platforms (PS 3 not sure)

On the XBOX the second disk willbe used for the voice recordings I reckon, all installed to the hard disk, while the game will be on the first disk.

PS3 just has blur-ray so no issues there.

The Oblivion DVD wasn't full size.

Besides it can come on multiple DVDs.

Mass Effect 2 is 13+ gigs.

They are going to avoid multiple DVDs like the plague, it costs more money to do that..

This. OB was less than 5gigs installed. A dual layer DVD can hold 8.6 gigs. Plenty of room for more voices.

Installing the 360 version of Oblivion to your HDD requires about 6.7 GB (another site says 5.8 GB) of space. Some stuff might be uncompressed when you do that.
I can't find the numbers for the DVD specifically. (In my PC the DVD reads 6 MB, sneaky Microsoft.)
A dual-layer DVD has a maximum capacity of about 9 GB.
There are probably better compression techniques these days. Oblivion was one of the earliest 360 games.

I don't see them going near 9 GB, but if they did...
A mandatory install for 360 users probably won't happen. Not every 360 came with a HDD, and they're trying to sell the game to as many people as possible.
I'm not sure how a multiple DVD system would work on a truly open world game like Skyrim. "You're about to enter the Reach, please insert Disc 2."
Maybe they can figure it out if need be, but I doubt they'll have that problem.

Don't forget

More complex engine code
Higher res textures
Higher poly models
More shaders

Good thing i have a PS3, Blu-ray is the shiz haha

Bethesda has to waste time developing better compression techniques for the 360 rather than working on the game.

We'll be able to get all the expansions as well on our one disc! :toughninja:

Compare FO3 to OB.

FO3 had all of those things and yet the installed game size was practically the same. Like I said, plenty of room.

oh, really? morrowind on xbox had less stuff in it than the PC version...

in bloodmoon, wasnt solstheim's raven rock settlement SMALLER on the xbox than the PC version?

tthats what i heard, anyway... if its true, then BOOM... blew a hole through what ya just said.

You know, this reminds me of the original multi-CD release of Riven-

Please insert Disc 5.

The 360 disk will be heavily compressed is all as stated. The multiple disk angle doesn't work because the game as we can tell from Morrowind and Oblivion isn't as linearly put together and set like Mass Effect 2 so a disk switching solution for certain plot points and planets would work.

And other than saves it wouldn't be consumer friendly for the 360 to expect to install a disk or two into a harddrive the player might not have.

They'll manage but yes the DVD constraint is catching up. If only Microsoft had the HD DVD actually on the system rather than a side accessory. While HD DVD failed as a standard(Blu Ray will catch up to normal DVDs but only when they reach a low price) they still could of been produced and used just specifically for xbox 360 games if not movies and other entertainment.

I honestly don't think that higher polys will make a difference, unless they went from a model that had 300 polys to one that has 3 million

and if they are using steam they dont need to make a second disk you can just download it from steam

Believe it or not, polys actually take up quite a bunch of space.

The 360 disk will be heavily compressed is all as stated. The multiple disk angle doesn't work because the game as we can tell from Morrowind and Oblivion isn't as linearly put together and set like Mass Effect 2 so a disk switching solution for certain plot points and planets would work.

And other than saves it wouldn't be consumer friendly for the 360 to expect to install a disk or two into a harddrive the player might not have.

They'll manage but yes the DVD constraint is catching up. If only Microsoft had the HD DVD actually on the system rather than a side accessory. While HD DVD failed as a standard(Blu Ray will catch up to normal DVDs but only when they reach a low price) they still could of been produced and used just specifically for xbox 360 games if not movies and other entertainment.

Edit: Sorry for the double post. Palm Pre bugged out

If it requires a hard drive they can use much more intensive compression that's not viable when you have to decompress it on the fly. While I agree that DVD as a medium is becoming too small, it's not implausable to store a game on just one, not yet. And hey, they could always release it on HD-DVD too

I am saying though they are not gonna add a bunch of polys, I think it will still relatively be the same

FFXIII came out on 3 DVD's for the 360, so I don't see why Skyrim couldn't have an extra disc to install onto the hard drive. Since I play on a PC, though, I say bring on as many DVD's as they want! I also have a Blu-Ray drive, but they probably won't release the PC version on Blu-Ray.