Dwarven : V

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:32 am

I just notice something, why theres a "Dwarven set" if there no dwarvs in game???

If theres elves, orc, "lizards" and "cats", why dont make dwarfs. I want to be a tiny berserker dwarven warrior with an 2h battle-axe and a very heavy armor. u know what i mean, dwarvs are part of the "mitology", they even exist in real world, why not in skyrim?

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:04 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1243423-why-havent-dwarves-been-a-playable-race-for-all-these-years/

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:20 am

Could use more subtlety. But for an amateur work it shows promise.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:01 am

Read the lore, they're extinct...

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:46 pm

They're actually called Dwemer and are a kind of elf... It is thought that a giant saw them and therefor calling them ''dwarves'' because they were small to him

No one knows how they disappeared but somehow they just did... They vanished into thin air!

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:49 pm

Dwarves in TES are as large, or larger, than humans and other elves. That's right, dwarves are a type of elf. They're Dwemer, deep elves, and they earned their title from the giants that spotted them in their deep cities. They were dwarves to giants.

The dwarves were all turned to ash LONG ago, thousands of years ago, by powerful magic gone awry. So they no longer exist, and all that remains are their ruins and constructs.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:58 pm

Wow, someone doesn't know about TES dwarves, or in fact the origins of Dwarven folklore at all. Dwarves != short people. Oh, and "mitology"? Did you lie about your age to get on this forum?

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:04 pm

Hmmm, interesting, well i start play in oblivion so i dont know all the lore anyway, ty for information guys.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:04 pm

Dwarves in TES are as large, or larger, than humans and other elves. That's right, dwarves are a type of elf. They're Dwemer, deep elves, and they earned their title from the giants that spotted them in their deep cities. They were dwarves to giants.

The dwarves were all turned to ash LONG ago, thousands of years ago, by powerful magic gone awry. So they no longer exist, and all that remains are their ruins and constructs.

I ninja'd you! IN YOUR FACE!

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:33 am

can you revive one their centurions as a necromancer??? or do these not count? (altough undeads count as well)

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:19 am

They insisted on science rather than magic.

So one of the theories is the gods wiped them out.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:36 am

They're actually called Dwemer and are a kind of elf... It is thought that a giant saw them and therefor calling them ''dwarves'' because they were small to him

No one knows how they disappeared but somehow they just did... They vanished into thin air!

They were attempting to create the god Numidium when they disappeared. The popular opinion seems to be that they were all called to become the god's golden skin.

Yagrum Bagarn, the last living dwarf that you meet in Morrowind, did not vanish because he was in another dimension at the time.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:56 pm

vanishing of the dwarfs (prequel) or return of the dwarfs would also be a cool spin off :-)

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:45 am

Wow, someone doesn't know about TES dwarves, or in fact the origins of Dwarven folklore at all. Dwarves != short people. Oh, and "mitology"? Did you lie about your age to get on this forum?

The "!=" made my little programming heart smile

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:16 pm

Ugh. That is ridiculous. You can't redefine a basic term like dwarf.

Giant? That's just a regular guy, and how tall he looks compared to a chicken.

Dragon? That's just what we call people with red hair.

...

(inb4 "you didn't play Morrowind" and "how dare you you blaspheme TES lore")

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:49 pm

just play as a nord

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:07 pm

Ugh. That is ridiculous. You can't redefine a basic term like dwarf.

Giant? That's just a regular guy, and how tall he looks compared to a chicken.

Dragon? That's just what we call people with red hair.

...

(inb4 "you didn't play Morrowind" and "how dare you you blaspheme TES lore")

Yes, they can.

Easily, actually. In fact, they just did it. And there's nothing you can do to stop them, because there is no defined term for dwarf.

Sure, Tolkien and those who copied them made them hardy, drunk, stereotypical, short [censored]s that live underground, dig holes, and do [censored] like that. Bethesda decided to not copy everybody else and made their dwarves creative and original.

For that, I commend them. There's nothing worse than exact clones of other fantasy worlds.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:12 am

Ugh. That is ridiculous. You can't redefine a basic term like dwarf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_People
It's all perspective.

Edit: Plus, they identify as Dwemer.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:37 pm

Ugh. That is ridiculous. You can't redefine a basic term like dwarf.

Giant? That's just a regular guy, and how tall he looks compared to a chicken.

Dragon? That's just what we call people with red hair.

...

(inb4 "you didn't play Morrowind" and "how dare you you blaspheme TES lore")

Actually the "dwarves" of Germanic mythology, where their basis lies, were a type of elf (alfar). They were known as svartalfar (black elves) or dokkalfar (dark elves) so TES got it right on that count.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:09 am

They are all dead, but they are such good craftsmen (well elves) that what they built lasts for years if not ever.

Norse Dwarfs are believed to been human size pre-13th century (that the only time it starts being said that they are short anyway).

Apart from that it just they where master Smith also they DIDN'T live underground. It was a Race of ELVES that lived underground.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:11 am

The real question is this: how are we finding dwarven gauntlets, boots, swords, and arrows if they had steam power and robots?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:29 am

The real question is this: how are we finding dwarven gauntlets, boots, swords, and arrows if they had steam power and robots?

Because they wore armor and had weapons too. I'm not really sure how that's related.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:31 am

How many topics have we seen on this?

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:16 pm

How many topics have we seen on this?

Ironic name is ironic.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:07 am

How many topics have we seen on this?

First one I've seen in awhile. :spotted owl: