Why is that line prove that Yagrum wasn't cured? The Nerevarine was the first succesful case, after the death of Dagoth Ur and the destruction of the Heart Divayth Fyr would have had plenty of reason to continue working on the cure. The second another cure worked he would have given it to Yagrum as well. Just because it hadn't happened in Morrowind does not mean it didn't happen at all.

Calcelmo is a quack. His opinion is about as solid as the frizzy haired aliens guy from the history channel, except more boring.

Indeed. If he wasn't a babbling lunatic, I'd say that Septimus Signus probably knew more about the Dwemer than did Calcemo.

As it relates to the Dwemer themselves, I wonder if the Dwemer really are part of the Numidium. There's an awful lot of ghosts haunting the old Dwemeri ruins in Morrowind, and to be a part of something of that sort, the soul also will likely need to be a part. Otherwise the Numidium runs on macabre biofuel.

I'm curious what Kagrenac's Tools are supposed to do. Given Arniel Gane's fate, it might provide an answer. I also wonder if the supposed "telepathy" the Dwemer had is in some way involved, turning a local disaster into a cataclysm.

The concensus is that the ghosts are from Dwemer that died before the dissapearance.

I believe Arniel's fate shows that the Dwemer became part of Numidium.
Had Arniel been less than partially successful, if he had had Sunder as well and was halfway competent, he might have bound the entire Breton race to the Dovakhiin.

Dwemer 'telepathy' is radio technology.
This can be gleaned from all the Dwemer coherers that can be found in Morrowind.
A coherer is a device solely used in radio technology.
Its possible this was used to co-ordinate Kagrenac's effort.

On Falion, he specifically says he has met Dwemer, not A dwemer in the outer realms. So yes, he could have been meet Yagrum, but not only him. It can't be the morrowind spectre's, as he specfically says the outer realms.

We can't say whether he's lying or not because Beth haven't expanded on it. Surely somthing this big cannot be ignored.

On Calcelmo, we have been conditioned to by Beth to realize that every in-game reference, though contradictory with other material, will have some truth to it. Sort of like the Arcturial Herasy, actually, exactly like the Arcturial Herasy.

On the golden skin, I do think it is true, that the Dwemer became part of it, but not all of them.

I have a feeling we will see them soon. Or to be more specific, Dovakhiin will battle them soon. Dwemer ruins did not make a return just for being pretty. I have a gut feeling Beth. will unleash the dwemer on Skyrim in a dlc. And they will will be grumpy to say the least. All of their cities in ruins and inhabited by vermin or even worse.

I reckon only then will we really know what happened.

I'd agree with that. There's actually some "encoded" text in the game that pretty much says the Dwemer lockbox was created after the they had disappeared, implying there were still other Dwemer around after the Battle of Red Mountain. That was a fun thread... pages of text that used a special mage font or something, that when converted to a latin alphabet turned out to be Portuguese talking about the lockbox and stuff. I'll see if I can dig it up.

EDIT:
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1323988-mysterious-new-glyphs/

"The iceberg was created around the lockbox by an unknown person within the last few hundred years. This person found the Oghma Infinium and recognized it as an invention of evil and sealed the lockbox away "in the band"(?) in the iceberg so the ..."

Okay, so it doesn't say the Dwemer made it after Red Mountain. Still...

The words of one man, who studied the Dwemer his entire life and is going slightly mad can not compare to all the knowledge we have already, knowledge that comes from Yagrum the last living Dwemer, Divayth Fyr a four thousand year old powerful wizard and Vivec a God-King. For another Dwemer to be around would be incredibly unlikely, for Dwemer to have existed after the battle of red mountain would destroy all knowledge we had of Dwemer and the credibility of some of the most powerful and well studied characters in TES.

I doubt it. And if they were to do so, it would be more than a DLC.

Forgive me, my-dear-fish, but I feel compelled to interject; it ultimately boils down to perspective and truthfulness, and while I know we like to avoid 'X might be lying' because it ultimately throws everything up in the air, I think this may be appropriate here. Vivec, a God-King, claims to not sense the dwemer anywhere in space or time; I can't remember with certainty if his statement extends beyond Mundus, but I think this was the case. Set against this, we have Yagrum Bagarn, who is, as far as we know, the Last Living Dwarf, very plainly within the fabric of Mundus. Unless he's just the manifestation of some eldiritch horror or some crazy [censored] like that. Then we have statements Yagrum makes when given the texts Divine Metaphysics and The Egg of Time, and while re-reading these may restore some part of his memory, he speaks as though he was still aware of the arguments and principles within the texts, and that they simply refreshed his memory on their specifics; if they held any revelations for him, he remained thoroughly nonchalant in his dialogue.

I honestly think that, whatever else may be the case, Vivec, Divayth, and Yagrum - especially Yagrum - were aware of greater things in motion, gave the Nerevarine what he needed to know, and only what he needed to know (of which we have clear evidence from Vivec regarding Dagoth Ur, the Heart, and how the tribunal used the profane tools to bind themselves,) consisting of a careful blend of information and misinformation.

Why? Because I find it infinitely more likely that these individuals, who have lived and observed the actions of their fellows across the span of millennia would be savy enough to use lies and half-lies to their own ends, and because it renders them vastly more believable as characters. That doesn't mean that they were out to screw the Nerevarine over; s/he was a power on the game-board, but likely from their perspective, a transitory factor. Separate malicious intent from deception (unless your grasp of morality and ethics prevents you from doing so) and, from my perspective, at least, it makes sense. Excepting the Trial of Vivec, which is obviously deception with malicious intent, if warranted.

It's just my perspective on the matter, and I may be completely wrong.. though I think it's a richer story if I'm right, and leaves us with something much more interesting to consider.

Addendum: this is in no way a denial of the Golden Skin explanation, simply the assertion that more may be going on than is readily apparent.

That would be hard, surely, since they are all effectively gone..? Plus, I didn't see any large numbers of Ayleids running around during TES IV.

It's important to note that the player has already met and intereacted with Yagrum extensively at the point Vivec says this. There's no point in Vivec mentioning Yagrum, he knows you know Yagrum's story, and therefore is addressing the actual question of the race's whereabouts.
There is more going on, much more, and there are many unanswered questions. The article on the Dwemer's disappearance makes it abundantly clear that there is more going on, and should make it clear that all we really know is a general outline of their end goal, and the fact they were bound to the Numiduim at some point (and perhaps continued to be). Everything else is still up in the air. Yagrum, their success rate, their plans as they relate beyond the Dwemer (since the Numidium wasn't just meant for that one time show), the extent of their pre-disappearance immortality, all kinds of fun questions.

I have serious doubts about your explanation, but it seems personal. I just don't think that these three people would be lying. Two of them independent of the third for reasons that are entirely unnecessary. If any of those three would claim the existence of more then it would not be a bad thing, or even something that would have the change the Nerevarine looks at the upcoming battles.

However it is an explanation that I would buy if it were offered in game. I wouldn't understand but then again how can one trully understand (near) immortal beings.

That's BORING. Omniscience is BORING. Vehk made made a mistake, he's fallible, there's stuff he doesn't know because that's INTERESTING.

I'd rather have an all knowing Vivec then a return of the Dwemer...

I know of few things more interesting than a being who knows everything, yet speaks in poems and half-truths. The Elder Scrolls universe needs a more perfect god in its world of fallible gods. That god is Vivec, for he is the perfect blend of mortal and god.

A universe full of fallible mortals and fallible gods is boring. Even if Vivec is fallible, we need him to not be, and so he isn't. We need goals.

You call uncertainty boring? You call the existence of a higher truth less interesting than the unassailable omniscience of an all-knowing [censored]? Perfection is static. Perfection is definitive. I would rather there be more to find in this world than what Vivec chooses to disseminate in his repetitive riddles.

I swear, some of you people worship Vehk to the point where you are unable to see what makes him interesting. He has FLAWS. He is IMPERFECT. He is ARROGANT. He is a mortal with mortal flaws who has taken the power of a god and reinforced his own shortcomings with dogma and conceit. You would rather believe in him as does the Dunmer peasant on the street? Why? Up here, we can see him for what he is.

A universe of fallibility is boring? Listen to yourself! A universe wherein things are uncertain - boring? A world of flawed gods, where the only perfection is the perfect Black and White, uncaring, unfeeling, unthinking abstractions above all comprehension, you find this unsatisfying? We don't need Vehk to be infallible, we need him to be flawed. Because we aren't in Tamriel, looking up, we're watching it through our screen and Mary Sues are BORING.

I think Vivec would actually really appreciate you saying that.

There is a difference between all knowing and perfect, at least in my mind. Vivec knowing if there are Dwemer left or not, is infinitly more interesting then another Dwemer showing up for some unexplained reason that nobody really understands.

Whether or not Vivec should have flaws is obvious to me, he should and he has many. But lack of knowledge isnot one of them.

I don't want the Dwemer to show up again, either. I'm sorry I gave that impression. I was referring to the fact that there was one Dwarf left when he said he could sense no more. Yagrum Bagarn. Vivec made a mistake. The mighty god-king of the Dunmer making a mistake is more interesting, and just as likely, as his taking for granted that you understand when he says he senses no Dwemer he actually means one Dwemer.

Relax. You completely misinterpreted what I was saying. A world where there are only fallible beings is, yes, more boring than a world where there is one being among fallible beings that got things right and achieved a degree of perfection for us to pursue his footsteps. The pursuit of a higher purpose is far more interesting than a world of uncertainty with no meaning. The latter is the world we live in, and that svcks, and what I like about the world of TES is that there is an underlying meaning and a higher purpose. Vivec represents this.

Vivec represents an attempt at that, more successful than most. But when you win, you stop playing. Vehk hasn't won. He just holds the current high score.

Right.

And he also knew the Dwemer were not in Mundus, Oblivion, or any of the Outer Realms.

No need to shout. We can read you fine without the typographic din.

Anyways, Vehk-qua-God has a view of the board way beyond our feeble ken. Take as a matter of perfectly reasonable faith that he has very practical reasons for claiming as he did.

I accept the fact that the dwemer are gone, dividing by zero will do that to you. But I'm also fine with the idea that most mathematical operations are reversible.