Dwemer Canons

Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:09 am

dwemer didnt have cannons they used the forbidden machina you know like those ballista walkers you usually see outside there ruins
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:02 am

True, but many facilities were in disarray and crumbling in Morrowind, and there were several centurions not working. It's possible that in the two hundred years things finally crumbled or were destroyed when Dwemer towers fell or something would make me happy. I love the Dwemer, but I grow weary of their stuff being infinitely usable and bountiful across the entire empire though they only settled in Morrowind and Hammerfell.

That's not true. They settled all over Tamriel. There are going to be Dwemer ruins in Skyrim.
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:12 am

There were satchel charges in Morrowind so given how smart the Dwemer were I'm pretty sure they weren't far off creating firearms. I say yes...yes please to Dwarven cannons. Ornate, finely-crafted walking Dwarven cannons.
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:03 am

I think it would make an interesting quest to recover some lost weapon that could shoot down dragons for a city or village to defend themselves when the Dragon-born is off stealing the counts underpants.

Sorry for the Fable 3 reference.
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:16 am

No canons
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Post » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:18 pm

*ahem*

aliens and lasers


:banana:
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Post » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:51 pm

There were satchel charges in Morrowind so given how smart the Dwemer were I'm pretty sure they weren't far off creating firearms.


No. Simple fact, they weren't "close to" the level of technology needed to build firearms, they had the necessary levels of technology. But- the critical issue isn't could they create firearms, but would they and the answer to that is "no." Their only concern was creating their machine god, which is why they had bows, crossbows, ballistae, no guns- and functioning robots. It was never an issue of "can't."
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:20 am

Yes to cannons. Immense, scorched brass, smoking, hell-spewing cannons of dragon-obliterating death-dealing technological might!

I wouldn't mind firing one of those Dwemer ballistae while fighting off a dragon at a ruin, either.
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Post » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:46 pm

*ahem*

aliens and lasers


:banana:

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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:57 am

No, Catapults and ballistas on the other hand, yes
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:34 am

This is TES. Not Fallout or Fable. :thumbsdown:
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:20 am

Stop typing canon, it's cannon!
A canon is a type of song sang in choirs.

You kids are completely lost without your spelling correctors, eh? :P
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:22 am

Dwemer don't make guns, trough the create balistas bows crossbows and dart throwing mechanisms thats use steam
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:40 am

There is a dwemer ballista in Morrowind. Can't remember which ruin though !
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:40 am

No. Simple fact, they weren't "close to" the level of technology needed to build firearms, they had the necessary levels of technology. But- the critical issue isn't could they create firearms, but would they and the answer to that is "no." Their only concern was creating their machine god, which is why they had bows, crossbows, ballistae, no guns- and functioning robots. It was never an issue of "can't."


Oh look a semantic troll! There is a difference between a sack of gunpowder and an effective weapon - just ask the ancient Chinese. They had firecrackers but still never invented guns. Sure, they had flamestick things that shot missles but that's not a firearm like the kind we're all talking about and you know it. And you can't possibly answer the question question as to whether they would or not - they're so profoundly alien that any normal man or mer couldn't ever predict what they would do. Therefore, the only question left is the issue of can/cannot. Would/would not is not able to be answered.
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:06 am

No. Simple fact, they weren't "close to" the level of technology needed to build firearms, they had the necessary levels of technology. But- the critical issue isn't could they create firearms, but would they and the answer to that is "no." Their only concern was creating their machine god, which is why they had bows, crossbows, ballistae, no guns- and functioning robots. It was never an issue of "can't."


They were extremely inventive and technological, even if it was unintentional it would only have been a matter of time before one of them stumbled into the idea. Theres also not really much info on them at all so even saying they didnt have guns is opinion, they might very well have had guns and canons and theyre just still burried somewhere.
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:19 am

Are Dwemer cannons canon? :P
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:27 am

I think the Dwarves already had steam powered ballistae... so I would imagine they would actually be rather fast. And badass.
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:13 am

The dwemer had radios, I think they could do a canon, they aren't idiots. That's just my opinion, though.. I do not have the raging "medieval purity hardon" quite so big as many people.

Ballistas would be fine too, I hope we'll need to kill dragons with something other than our hands. They are 10 tonne fire breathing flying monsters, I don't think they'd be that easy to kill with any sort of melee weapon, really.. even if I am the DRAGONBORN(!!!) mass dragon slayer. :rolleyes:
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:00 am

I think there should be Dwemer Canons to shoot down dragons. They can be easily blasted out of the sky with the powers of the Dwemers. Anyone else think Dwemer canons have a place in Skyrim?

"Argh, matey! They be coming from the starboard bow! Fire them cannons and swap the poop-deck!"... Let's leave cannons to Serious Sam, shall we? :)
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:51 am

i wouldn't mind spearing a dragon witha balista
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Post » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:09 pm

For the people complaining how cannons are not part of TES, I'd like to say that, yes they are. They can be found in Redguard, and have been mentioned in Daggerfall.
Also blackpowder was commonly used in the middle ages.

Now I can see with all these people knowing how to throw fireballs from their hands, blackpowder based weaponry pretty much became useless, but there's no reason to think why there shouldn't be cannons in the game.

Other than that I don't know how cannons are useful against flying dragons...
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Post » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:19 pm

Dwemer used ballistas. Reguards had cannons though.

Though we battle dragons with our shouts, so...


Wait, Redguards have cannons and people complain how primitive guns wouldn't fit TES?
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:49 am

Those are just my thoughts:

There is this impression on the people : Firearms are weapons that rendered any other weapons useless in war.Now,that may be true for the real world,but it doesn't have to apply to fantasy settings.But for it to work,it has to be implemented correctly and from the very beginning I think.Not having those "advanced weaponry" from the beginning but having it in the next game will make people FEEL other kinds of weapons useless,thus severing bonds to the previous games and killing the "TES atmosphere".
It's not the functionality but the looks.As stated before,magic works as expolsives and missiles.But having the explosion from a staff feels different from an explosion from a RPG,even though if they were to deal the same damage to the same area with the same graphics in the game.
That being said,putting two pieces of stick(good looking ones please) at the nozzle of the cannon,thus turning it into a ballista (looks-wise) but keeping the same function would collect more fans than cannon version.

As for me,I wouldn't like any guns I think.
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Post » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:52 am

The Dwemer had quantum phys..err I mean "tonal architects", but no gunpowder.
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