Not to mention resisting Mexican rule into the 20th C (the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_War_of_Yucat%C3%A1n), and still a hotbed of unrest today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation.

Anyway, I liken the Dwemer more to the Babylonians than to the Assyrians, as the Babylonians were especially well known for astronomy, mathematics, and metallurgy, pursuits they shared with the Dwemer. What little we have of Assyrian arts and sciences tends to be devoted to military purposes.

they both did.

Neither did.

And they were all Scottish!

What exactly is the problem, Putty?

Its just funny how you seem to infer celtic properties from every race. You're serious about it too. :hehe:

Well, that, and I was making fun of the banolity of this conversation as a whole. Like, seriously, didn't we constructively critique the asinine nature of these sorts of threads in the very last one that showed up just http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1009449?

And nothing personal was meant, Gallowglass, just a snarky aside among friends. Erm, web-acquaintances.

Meh, I've only found Celtic links with the Dunmer (well, and the Bretons, but there I didn't really need to try because of the name), and they're less common than Assyrian links (mainly to do with the timeline of and sociogeographic situation in Morrowind)

There are a lot of Anglo Saxons at Bethesda, so accidents can happen.

Atlantis ^_^

:P

but indeed neither the inca's nor the maya's dissapeared without a trace.. actually you could say they still live.. (althouth they're just a few)

Out of the key people, as listed on Wikipedia, I count one

Their descendants are actually extremely numerous: some 7 million identify themselves as Maya. The Inca are dispersed among the Quechua (9 to 14 million), Aymara (2 million), and others. The only part of them that disappeared was their high Golden Age constructions (the Maya, possibly through famine and war; the Inca, through conquest).

Nothing like the disappearing act that all but one Dwemer and a handful of stranded ghosts pulled off. Though I still cannot exclude the possibility that Kagrenac made a gross miscalculation and actually summoned the Snark.<sup>1

1</sup>For the Snark was a Boojum, you see.

I actually gotta say, that's one of the wierd things about both groups. Here you are, saying that Kagrenac just royally screwed up, that's also somewhat like my opinion. However, a lot of people think that the dissapearance was intentional, and that the maya magically vanished. I know why people think that about the Dwemer, but the Maya thing just confuses me so much. so what gives?

I have never heard of a Mayan robot.

Are you kidding? The Mayans were one of the foremost producers of steampunk warmechs!

Holy hell, I just mentioned the Maya to my coworker and she nearly bit my head off. She gave me all this info about ancient cultures and 2012. Damn.

The disappearance of the Maya high culture is now pretty well explained. But it's understood only by specialists, and too many people in the general culture have gone off the deep end with wild theories.

Some years before the collapse of the Maya high culture, there was an extended period of warfare between the city-states. We now know enough of Maya inscriptions to be able to read as much from the known ruins. While they had had their squabbles in the past, there had been nothing like this before. The leading conjecture as to the cause of the warfare is famine: the exhaustion of farmland through slash-and-burn farming and an extended drought. They never had anything like the advanced agriculture that later Mexican tribes had, and they were susceptible to such disruptions. Anyway, after some years of war, the Maya stopped building monuments, and the rainforest quickly overtook the ones they left.

And the comment about the Snark was just me being snarky. All is made clear in Lewis Carroll, The Hunting of the Snark.

ZOMG TEH WORLD IS GOING TO END IN 2012 TEH MAYANS SAID SO AHHHHHH!!!111!1onee!111!1221!!!!

Heh, I love the conspiracy nuts, I really do. They're my people, albeit ones who have been "touched", so to speak.

Actually, she dosen't believe it, she just has crazy attention to detail and I was over-simplifying. Whatever.

But Dogsbody has it as far as what happened to the Maya, the logical thing that happened to countless Imperialist citsy-states in every land over the millenia. And since I already know why people have this facination with this supposed Dwemeri infallibility I guess I'm done here, for my part. Later, folks!

YES.

And besides, everyone knows that 2012 is the year the Kult of Kirkbride will take over the world.