Dwemer questions

Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:42 pm

I'm making a very small and simple mod but I need to know some things about the Dwemer.


1) I know there is one dwemer alive in Morrowind, but I was wandering if there could ever possibly be other living Dwemer in the other provinces?

2) What was the hierarchy for their culture such as peasant or king.

3) Did they live among other creatures. (Goblins, Ogres, etc...)
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Penny Wills
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 10:23 am

1) Probably none : Ther might have been a few ones who were wandering far enough into the other realms of existence to escape the race's doom, but they would be long dead now.

2) probably some feudal heirarchy, though they added the Tonal Architects, mage-scientist who seems to somewhat fit in the roles other societies used clergy for (advisors and thinkers) along with their researcher and tinkerers more obvious roles. Fro mthe scant sources they seems to have been organized in city-based clans.

3) No. They were no other races hanging around in Resdayn (ancient name of the Morrowind province) except the chimer/dunmers, and the relatiosn were bad. The self-exiled Rourken clan who build Stros M'Kai in Hammerfell didn't seem to have had much contact with the locals either. The dwemers were a reclusive sort and don't seems to have taken much interest in the other races.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:24 am

1) Probably none : Ther might have been a few ones who were wandering far enough into the other realms of existence to escape the race's doom, but they would be long dead now.

2) probably some feudal heirarchy, though they added the Tonal Architects, mage-scientist who seems to somewhat fit in the roles other societies used clergy for (advisors and thinkers) along with their researcher and tinkerers more obvious roles. Fro mthe scant sources they seems to have been organized in city-based clans.

3) No. They were no other races hanging around in Resdayn (ancient name of the Morrowind province) except the chimer/dunmers, and the relatiosn were bad. The self-exiled Rourken clan who build Stros M'Kai in Hammerfell didn't seem to have had much contact with the locals either. The dwemers were a reclusive sort and don't seems to have taken much interest in the other races.

Disputing 3.
They coexisted peacefully for some time, at least until Kagrenac ruined it for everyone.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:01 am

Disputing 3.
They coexisted peacefully for some time, at least until Kagrenac ruined it for everyone.

Actually there is a very large possibility that Dwemer were students of Ehlnofey ( Titans, fallen gods, ancestors of Men and Mer ) during their "short" existence on Nirn.
That small information could explain their "lack of faith in gods" ( knowing the truth about them, origin of gods ) and their high technology ( steam power ) for that age.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:45 am

1) Probably none : Ther might have been a few ones who were wandering far enough into the other realms of existence to escape the race's doom, but they would be long dead now.


I don't see why since Yagrum Bagarn is still living (more or less) even though he has the corpus disease, I am shure another dwemer with no disease would still be living. Having said that I doubt any other dwemer "survived".
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:32 pm

Actually there is a very large possibility that Dwemer were students of Ehlnofey ( Titans, fallen gods, ancestors of Men and Mer ) during their "short" existence on Nirn.
That small information could explain their "lack of faith in gods" ( knowing the truth about them, origin of gods ) and their high technology ( steam power ) for that age.


Ehlnofey = Earth bones.

No, Gelly, there is no Dwemer.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:35 am

I don't see why since Yagrum Bagarn is still living (more or less) even though he has the corpus disease, I am shure another dwemer with no disease would still be living. Having said that I doubt any other dwemer "survived".


It is unsure what really happened to the Dwemer. One thing just about everyone agrees on is that the simply up and vanished. If memory serves me correctly Yagrum Bagarn was off somewhere that was impossoble for him to be moved as well, which the reason he is the only dwemer left.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:27 am

Yea, umh, we kinda figured it out. After lots of hints and nudging.

http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/luagararticle1.shtml
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:43 am

The peacefull coexistence was a 150 years interlude before the battle at the Red Moutain - before that, only the Nord's pressure and Nerevar's skilled diplomacy brought them together, they wer quite busy being at each other's throats.

And Yagrum is still alive only because he caught Corprus, which made him proof against age. Any other dwemer is very probably long dead - even with altmer-like lifespans. The disparition of the dwemers is something like 3 000 years old. Unless they found a way of extending themselves Telvani-style and didn't get quietly 'disappeared' by the Tribunal if they got themselves noticed.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 11:36 am

Ehlnofey = Earth bones.

No, Gelly, there is no Dwemer.

Yes, I know. Ehlnofey = Earth bones, remains of Titans who lived with Dwemer during Merethic Era.
When Magic (Magnus), architect of the plans for the mortal world, decides to terminate this project, the Gods convene at the Adamantine Tower (Direnni Tower, the oldest known structure in Tamriel) and decide what to do. Most leave when Magic does. Others sacrifice themselves into other forms to stay (the Ehlnofey)


And yes, there are still Dwemer around, like it has been written here before, Yagrum Bagarn is "only" known Dwemer to still be alive.

BUT, nice little hole has been given to us with "Outer Realms" and all possibilities that it brings with. 3829 is a long time in Outer Realms for race like Dwemer to evolve without any influence from et'Ada ( gods, Daedra and Aedra )
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:39 pm

Yes, I know. Ehlnofey = Earth bones, remains of Titans who lived with Dwemer during Merethic Era.


And yes, there are still Dwemer around, like it has been written here before, Yagrum Bagarn is "only" known Dwemer to still be alive.

BUT, nice little hole has been given to us with "Outer Realms" and all possibilities that it brings with. 3829 is a long time in Outer Realms for race like Dwemer to evolve without any influence from et'Ada ( gods, Daedra and Aedra )

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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:08 pm

Thanks for the help guys, the mod will be hard to get working with lore, but I'll try.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:34 pm

The disparition of the dwemers is something like 3 000 years old. Unless they found a way of extending themselves Telvani-style and didn't get quietly 'disappeared' by the Tribunal if they got themselves noticed.


Its actually more like 2000.

With that being said, elves live for hundreds of years if they are at peak health. That's without magic. Add amgic, and you get at least 1000 years. Add advanced technology and one could easily last 2000 + years. Fyr is about 2000 years old, and though he is an expert mage and has a decent acquaintance with Dwemer tech, he is no where near an expert when it comes to Dwemeri toys. I could fathom a Dwemer pushing his life past 3000 years.

Bagarn however, claims he could no longer feel anymore Dwmer on Mundus. However, that dosn't mean they aren't in a another plane. Not only that, but there is at least one known Dwmer ghost that is still sentient, so it is not a stretch to say there are many fully rational and knowledgeable Dwemer ghosts floating around. I mean, that's almost as good as having a live one right?
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:13 am

I know this may be nitpicking, but Mortazo, I think its speculated that Divayth is roughly around 4,000 years old, if you believe what his daughters say.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:58 pm

I know this may be nitpicking, but Mortazo, I think its speculated that Divayth is roughly around 4,000 years old, if you believe what his daughters say.


I said he's around 2000, not 4000 (that would mean he was been alive since the end of the dawn).
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:42 pm

I said he's around 2000, not 4000 (that would mean he was been alive since the end of the dawn).


Nope. Daughter says 4000 and it's not too shoddy on history.

"You're smart. Get corprus disease. Get killed by corprus monsters. Get killed by Vistha-Kai. A very good plan. Plunder the dungeon of a 4000-year-old wizard. What could be easier?" -Alfe Fyr, on plunder the dungeon



Morrowind was set in 3E 430, lets assume he was exactly 4000 in this year.
The Second Era lasted 896 years.
The First Era lasted 2920 years.

So that makes (430 + 896 + 2920 =) 4246 years. This means Fyr was born in (4246 - 4000 =) 1E 246. So he was born during the rule of Allesia.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:39 pm

He is 4000 years old according to his daughter (which mean that he was born in Merethic era).

edit: damn too slow
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Andrew Lang
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:04 pm

Wrong too. :)
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Matt Gammond
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:30 pm

One more question, who is the Dwemer god, if they have one?
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:50 pm

One more question, who is the Dwemer god, if they have one?

They didn't believe in the gods, so they tried to create their own called Numidium, or Anumidium. My avatar is a picture of Numidium.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:58 pm

They didn't try to create a god; they tried to turn themselves into one. (And only one)

Isn't that Akulakhan?
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Jose ordaz
 
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:49 pm

Wrong too. :)

Yeah, the first era lasts too long :)
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:15 am

They didn't try to create a god; they tried to turn themselves into one. (And only one)

Isn't that Akulakhan?

So is it possible that the Dwemer were part of Numidium during Tibers conquests? Did they disappear beacuse they succeeded? Are these valid questions?

Actually, yes it is.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:51 am

Yes, if you're looking for the Dwemer, just look inside Tiber's garage. The Dwemer failed because they disappeared but Numidium did not. It just sat there as a big dumb statue minus a power source.

And I just looked close at your avatar, and the Ghostfence is crumpled in the background. Nice.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:31 am

Yes, if you're looking for the Dwemer, just look inside Tiber's garage. The Dwemer failed because they disappeared but Numidium did not. It just sat there as a big dumb statue minus a power source.

And I just looked close at your avatar, and the Ghostfence is crumpled in the background. Nice.

Not to mention the original power source is no where to be found. Damn batteries always being lost
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