I don't think arguing that the Numidium was actaully made of brass is going to get you anywhere lol

How on earth would it suvive being made inside a volcano?

Just plain alloys aren't cool enough for the Dwemer, they bent the earthbones to make their metals and in doing so made sorts of supermetals that were highly resistant to corrosion (which is why their armor lasts so long)...

The same way Akulakhan does???

The same way a gold Numidium would. The melting difference between the two is only about 100K.

I don't think that Akulakhan was made entirely of metal. Nor Numidium really. What's so hard to accept that the skin is made of souls? It accounts for it being made inside a volcano and not melting at any moment, and so does the corprus-flesh theory of Akulakhan (if you make up some stuff about corprus have magickal protection properties, and such.)

If it was, then how would Lord Dagoth have given Akulakhan skin?

You were talking about the process of it being made, the Dwemer souls weren't until the final step. That means that something else would have to account for the melting point, which is were bending of earth-bones easily comes in (also, I'm actually not certain this discussion isn't just two sides of the same point yet)...

If it were what? Derived from corprus? The growth capabilities of corprus would probably allow him to mold his given substance however he so desired...

But where would Lord Dagoth get plenty of Dwemer souls? Sure, there are spectres, but I doubt that would be enough.

The two Numidia, same in birth, but practically different in every other way I think.

I think somehow I missed where you were going with your argument. Dagoth had no need for Dwemer souls, for constructing a new Numidium or anything else. The Dwemer used their souls for their own purposes, just to have a giant golem powered by the Heart their souls weren't necessary. Dagoth isn't trying to dis-create himself or the world or to achieve any subgradient as far as we know, he just wanted a super robot of destruction that could herald his armies...

Sounds sixy.


Dagoth used corprus flesh to construct Akulakhan.

Don't forget Akulakhan as being the Typhoid Mary of all Tamriel.

He made it out of plastic? Or corprus? Skin can be made out of anything, including but not limited to souls.

btw, the skin thing is more a metaphor then an actual physical description. Its actual epidermis was probebly made out of Dwemerium or some other material.



You know it.

I thought that he was using corprus flesh. It was quite disgusting to really look at closely.


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This seems to indicate that the skin was made out of metal. Maybe, the sacrificed "golden souls" did not become the skin, but instead were lost through the creation of the metal used to make the skin (not becoming the metal). If you read http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/luagararticle1.shtml, it does not say that the Dwemer souls became the skin of the Anumidium. Perhaps the Dwemer were simply overworked creating it. After all, the creation of a god is not a walk in the park. I could quite probably be wrong, but my belief is that the Dwemer succeded in their plans and were "anti-created" but did not intend to leave Yagrum behind, but were forced to accelerate their plans due to the battle of Red Mountain.
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Well, yes, the Numidium was made out of metal, but it was not a stompy robot either. We should not overlook the fact that it also needed some divine skin to function properly.

So the Brass God would be used as a divine skin and the souls of the Dwemer would be used to create it. So that is why they disappeared, because they sacrificed their souls to make their Brass God which they would use to return to the "first brush of Anu-Padomay", and basically be, 'anti-created'. But why would they think that they had to all become one with this Brass God in order to do this, well the answer was right there in front of me. As the Altmeri creation myth states, the Mundus was created as a place where the aspects of the Aspects could reflect on themselves. So to return to the state of the original Aspects of Aurbis, the aspects of Mundus would need to be forced back together into their former shape, or something close to this. So the Dwemer with this in mind, began the creation of the body of their god, the would-be Aspect of Aurbis, with the Heart of the World, the Heart of Lorkhan, as its heart and main power supply. They then planned on combining their entire race with this god in order to anti-create their way back to the Aurbis, their many aspects as Dwemer would be reverted back into godly form as one singular Aspect.

But it still doesn't actually state categorically that the Dwemer became the skin. Thats conjecture, and whilst it may be true, there is no concrete evidence that thats what happened. Thats not to say it didn't happen and my theory did occur or vice versa, I just personally do not succumb to the dwemer becoming the skin of Anumidium.

Lets clear out a small misunderstanding.



The Dwemer did not become the skin of the Brass God. They became the Anumidium which can be used as a Divine Skin. People seem to have been misreading this.

This is in line with what Xal says:



The Brass God is called the Divine Skin.



And the Dwemer Souls were used to construct the Brass God.

The dwemers run around in my Oblivion and Morrowind. They are smaller than bosmers.
BTW: Who cares what happened to the "dwarves". It's only a game ffs.

You don't say.

BTW: Anumidum, not Anumidium.

They actually seemed like Dwarfs they are good with mining and metals

They actually seemed like Dwarfs they are good with mining and metals

Their skill with metallurgy notwithstanding, their ruins are now only underground due to a certain volcanic eruption..... They WERE on the surface, sprawling cities of tall glistening spires of brazen metal.

Their "Dwarf" monicker comes from the "Giants" that used to inhabit the area referring to them as such, because of their "Smaller" posture. Dwemer were by no means "Dwarfed" compared to the other mortal races. In fact, some races of men are/were shorter.


They were elves, of a rather curious, and seemingly insruitable profession. (The vocation of attempting to prove a negative is a well known logical fallacy in our world. Yet, the dwemer did it all the time. It was part of the foundation of their religious faith.)

hmm, they could have removed themselves from time itself, and are currently experiencing their own Dragon Break... in sort of a fastforward, body destroying experience, where only conciousness survives-- waiting for time to catch up. but, that would still mean they are technically dead, unless they find a way to build construct bodies and inhabit them.