dwemer. yeah, you heard me! Discussion thread for speculatio : V

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:57 pm

todays hub update showed the sound guy, he showed us a soundfile and animation he was using for a dwemer centurion.
yes you heard me. DWEMER CENTURION!
so aparently we have dwemer influence in the game in some form or other.

now i ask you..why?

what do you think their involvement is?

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:32 am

More than likely just ruins. As they were in Morrowind.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:17 am

Probably the same involvement as the previous games: gone, but not forgotten due to the stuff they left behind.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:59 pm

Providing dungeons and loot.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:43 am

Providing dungeons and loot.

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» Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:43 pm

todays hub update showed the sound guy, he showed us a soundtrack he was using for a dwemer centurion.
yes you heard me. DWEMER CENTURION!
so aparently we have dwemer influence in the game in some form or other.

now i ask you..why?

what do you think their involvement is?

Their affect on the world still standing today, I think.
There were Dwemer ruins and inventions in Morrowind, and they didn't play a big role. What's the big deal?
The Ayleid's didn't play a massive role in Oblivion.

EDIT: Lady N, you beat me. :sadvaultboy:

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:05 pm

I'm just glad the ruins are back, I find them much more interesting than Ayleid ruins

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:19 pm

Return of dwemer ruins is nice, but I'd still like to see new lore about the Falmer.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:14 pm

What are Dwemer doing in Skyrim?....unless Skyrims boarders now pour into Mainland Morrowind, last I check Dwemer cities were in morrowind >_>

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:37 pm

What are Dwemer doing in Skyrim?....unless Skyrims boarders now pour into Mainland Morrowind, last I check Dwemer cities were in morrowind >_>

The Dwemer lived in the Velothi and West Reach mountains, both of which border Skyrim. The borders shift over time, so either Skyrim now takes up parts of Morrowind and Hammerfell (likely) or parts of it used to be part of Morrowind and Hammerfell (also likely). The Rourken Dwemer also traveled over Skyrim during their migration, so some ruins could be remnants of that.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:59 am

I want to explore the Nordic aspect of Tamriel. I don't want to see a bunch of crap from past games. Skyrim is a new game, with new landscapes, game mechanics and all other AMAZING goodies.

As for the Dwemer... Maybe we'll see a dwemer dungeon near the Morrowind border. That's it. Honestly, the whole dwemer thing is getting old, and I think we can all agree on the fact that the Dwemer hold NO ground on the main storyline itself.

That's just me though. :shrug:

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:08 pm

Providing dungeons and loot.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:52 am

What are Dwemer doing in Skyrim?....unless Skyrims boarders now pour into Mainland Morrowind, last I check Dwemer cities were in morrowind >_>

Dwemer ruins can be anywhere they want. The future borders of other civilizations wouldn't affect where they built their fortresses. It could well be that the Dwemer built extensively into Skyrim past the Velothi Mountains, we'll just have to see.

Their affect on the world still standing today, I think.
There were Dwemer ruins and inventions in Morrowind, and they didn't play a big role. What's the big deal?
The Ayleid's didn't play a massive role in Oblivion.

EDIT: Lady N, you beat me.

I have to disagree, the Dwemer were at the center of or heavily involved the story for both Morrowind and Tribunal. True the Ayleid's didn't seem to have much of a role int he mainquest, but I think that just be the virtue that they are bringing the Dwemer into Skyrim, there has to be something interesting going on. Not sure if I'd be willing to bet it has to do with the mainquest, but it could be.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:41 pm

The Dwemer lived in the Velothi and West Reach mountains, both of which border Skyrim. The borders shift over time, so either Skyrim now takes up parts of Morrowind and Hammerfell (likely) or parts of it used to be part of Morrowind and Hammerfell (also likely). The Rourken Dwemer also traveled over Skyrim during their migration, so some ruins could be remnants of that.

not by the map, its still the same border i think.
also the dwemer inhabited alot more than just morrowind and Vvardenfell, hammerfell was named after a dwarven artifact named volendrung

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:43 pm

What are Dwemer doing in Skyrim?....unless Skyrims boarders now pour into Mainland Morrowind, last I check Dwemer cities were in morrowind >_>

Well the Dwemer lived from Morrowind to Hammerfell. So Skyrim is in the middle so..

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:27 pm

I want to explore the Nordic aspect of Tamriel. I don't want to see a bunch of crap from past games. Skyrim is a new game, with new landscapes, game mechanics and all other AMAZING goodies.

As for the Dwemer... Maybe we'll see a dwemer dungeon near the Morrowind border. That's it. Honestly, the whole dwemer thing is getting old, and I think we can all agree on the fact that the Dwemer hold NO ground on the main storyline itself.

That's just me though. :shrug:

I really doubt this is just for one dungeon. If they were just going to do this once, they wouldn't do it at all. Anyways, I believe several people have spotting names on the Skyrim map that appear to be Dwemer ruin names.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:21 pm

Well the Dwemer lived from Morrowind to Hammerfell. So Skyrim is in the middle so..

yeah, i think the reason they were not in oblivion was because they didn't have the time to do anything with them before release date. also they didnt even have final hardware untill 6 months before release.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:36 pm

Dwemer ruins can be anywhere they want. The future borders of other civilizations wouldn't affect where they built their fortresses. It could well be that the Dwemer built extensively into Skyrim past the Velothi Mountains, we'll just have to see.

I have to disagree, the Dwemer were at the center of or heavily involved the story for both Morrowind and Tribunal. True the Ayleid's didn't seem to have much of a role int he mainquest, but I think that just be the virtue that they are bringing the Dwemer into Skyrim, there has to be something interesting going on. Not sure if I'd be willing to bet it has to do with the mainquest, but it could be.

Kagrenac's Tools seem to be the only important part about the Dwemer from Morrowind, but I never beat Morrowind. :shrug:

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:37 am

That's because, you can't beat Morrowind...

Didn't we have a similar topic just 3 hours ago? Dwemer Ruins =/= Living Dwemer... nuff said.

Edit: Ah, kill me for my grammar please ...

» Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:55 am

In the Todd interview, there were Nords living in Dwemer towns.

Let me repeat that: DWEMER TOWNS.

Frakkin' awesome!

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:58 am

In the Todd interview, there were Nords living in Dwemer towns.

Let me repeat that: DWEMER TOWNS.

Frakkin' awesome!

I don't think he said that. Without going back to check and make sure, I recall him saying "These people living in mountain sides carved by the dwarves" or something similar. So it could be bandits for all we know.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:36 pm

Actually he did say some of those towns were ancient Dwemer towns that Nords moved into over the centuries

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:18 pm

Oblivion's cities weren't very original. Too imperial?

It sounds like Skyrim's cities are going to be much more interesting.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:10 pm

yeah, i think the reason they were not in oblivion was because they didn't have the time to do anything with them before release date. also they didnt even have final hardware untill 6 months before release.

Well they weren't in Oblivion because they didn't have any settlements in Cyrodiil. The Ayleids would have enslaved them if they had and after the fall of the Ayleids, Cyrodiil was the dominion of the Imperials. There just wasn't any period in time where the Dwemer could get a foothold in Cyrodiil.

» Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:25 pm

Don't think (nor necessarily want them to) that they tie into the plot too heavily for this one. The dungeons will probably mostly serve as a novelty and source of some additional lore, perhaps one or two parts of the main quest will involve them.