Well technically a sandstorm is actually just a lot of wind, don't know why it couldn't rain after that.

And I have to agree, I'm hooked, I just love the landscapes dynamic weather creates. Getting next to no performance hit too, which is nice.

Well, I've experienced a few duststorms first-hand (which would more accurately describe what the storm in the mod is, being that there's no sand, but a lot of dust, and the colouring matches the duststorms I've seen perfectly), and they only really happen during droughts when it's really, really dry. Having it rain immediately before or after a duststorm makes no sense whatsoever.

This is exactly the sort of feedback I need - thanks!

As the climate script stands at the moment, the only reason rain would follow a sandstorm is due to the possibility of an overcast weather type occuring after it - which in turn presents the possibility of rain occuring. I don't think it would be too difficult to throw in a couple of checks here and there to see how long it has been since they last occured. Makes sense. :nod: Actually, now I think about it, Imp of the Perverse's Ambient Temperature mod could come in handy here. Hmm...

I'm also working on giving you a reason to rush for shelter based on suggestions http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102778-wipz-progressive-climate/.

So far, I have it damaging armour (only by a small amount) and I'm trying to figure out how to apply a Perception penalty, unless you're wearing Biker Goggles or a helmet of some kind. Someone sugggested the duststorm be radioactive if you'd nuked megaton - which seems a reasonable idea. And I'm also wondering if it should damage health if you're armor is kaput.

All this would be entirely optional, but I'm hoping I can balance it so it's not completely annoying. So far, it's in the very early stages - just toying around with ideas (and trying to make it work ), but it will require FOSE.

~Xeph'

@ALL:

Just uploaded an updated Dynamic Weather - Main file. This should bring you all up to date with what I have here. It fixes a "small" issue where a fogged-version weather type may have appeared outside Megaton... o_O

It also allows me to get on with ripping my scripts apart for another update, without worrying that you have an outdated version in the meantime.

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10607

~Xeph'

That's not a solution. Seriously, the DOF mod greatly enhances visuals and removes the rugged appearance of distant objects. I will not trade it for rain

Well, there's not much else I can do... :shrug:

Other than the optional rain and sandstorm add-ons, there's no part of Dynamic Weather that would be causing any extra performance loss. If anything, the closer "fog" that is used in rain weather types (or any weather that appears in the DC Ruins) will only help performance due to the decreased draw distance.

If you want to squeeze some more performance out of Fallout 3, I would suggest heading over to the http://www.tweakguides.com/Fallout3_1.html.

~Xeph'

So the darker water plugin ... what happened to that?

is that integrated? I didn't see that in the changelog.

thanks

Oh yeah.. I completely forgot! Oops! :facepalm:

Yeah, it's fully integrated now.

I've darkened exterior water only - interior's remain as vanilla and untouched. Hopefully, I got everything I wanted and nothing I didn't want - water's a bit of a pain to mod!

Anyway, sorry about that! :hehe:

~Xeph'

I feel your pain on the water there, it's been a consistent problem for me.

I think this version isn't perfect yet. Until now i've witnessed two sudden changes in the weather conditions and / or clouds. Not sure if the weather itself actually changed, but the cloud texture definately did, leading to a sudden atmosphere change. I didn't experience this after loading a game, i was going from Rivet City to Megaton when the change occured near the Super-Duper Mart, so i guess i was running around for 3-5 minutes already.

Also, did you include this fog near the washington monument, for example? It seems every time i go there this thick DOF effect or whatever it is appears, and it does not vanish when i leave the area. I have to wait for the weather to actually change so it disappears. Since it heavily impacts FPS it would be cool if you could change it, reduce its effect, or whatever might work; and also remove this "carrying over" the weather from this and other similar areas (if there are those) to other areas where it shouldn't occur.

So is Fellout compatible with your xepha?

Or does it do different stuff and will conflict?

We're doing the same stuff. I'm afraid it's one or the other.

I think you may have stumbled over a bug I discovered recently. Or more precisely, the left over remains of something I was trying, which I forgot to take out... Should be fixed in the next version.

Reduced view distance (or more fog) was present in Vanilla FO3 in all DC Ruins locations and areas around Rivet City all the way up to just south of the Super-Duper Mart. In Dynamic Weather I've tried to reproduce these same fog distances that are found in Vanilla FO3 in areas that aren't directly connected to the Wasteland. It having an impact on FPS is the exact opposite of what I would expect, though, and was the main principle behind mods such as http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1293 (ie increasing FPS).

Um, which weather shouldn't occur where?




What Hattix said.

@Hattix: Yeah, really looking forward to doing it all again for NV... o_O

I meant the weather change that happens as soon as you enter DC - if you leave DC the weather carries over even though it's probably just supposed to be fog that engulfs the city. I find this behavior to be highly un-immersive, so to say.

Xeph, I'd hate to do this but I need to say something.

It won't work.

Now, I got the previous version to work before the big update but for some reason 2.11 won't work now. It's my last .esm and my last .esp. I'm not sure how to be exactly sure if it's working or not, but the sky is still a tinted green, but it's not overcasty in the DC outskirts (Anchorage Memorial) so I'm a bit confused. No different weather types other than clear skies. I even deleted every Fellout texture to ensure nothing was going on.

Ah, I see. Yeah, that's part of the same bug that may have been causing the weather changes near the super-duper mart.

It was, actually, intentional. That whole area (which if you imagine an arc that (roughly) goes from the National Guard Depot all the way around to the Nuka Cola Plant) in Vanilla FO3 does actually have a small fog distance and is something I was trying to make work whilst still having changing weather. It didn't work out (due to a lack of scripting functions) and I neglected to remove those changes before I uploaded. Like I say, it'll be fixed in the next version.




If you're not getting the weather that appears in Vanilla (ie, the overcast around Anchorage Memorial and instead have clear skies all around), then you must have done something right! Green tinted skies are part and parcel of DW - I've included many Vanilla weather types, albeit slightly (and sometimes heavily) modified. Try waiting for a few hours, the weather should eventually change.

Have a read over the following - maybe you missed something:

From the ReadMe:



From a recent post of mine on the Nexus:



~Xeph'

I looked at the textures, found one missing and downloaded the archived mod.

Due to my level up CTD I started a new game, hoping that your mod would work. Okay didn't go as planned. So take a look at my load order.


[X] Fallout3.esm
[ ] Project Genesis.esm
[ ] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] Project Beauty HD version.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] StreetLights.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[ ] RI_Core.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm <---Right thar.
[ ] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
[ ] RiPnO CorePatch.esp
[X] bltc.esp
[X] BLTC Immersion Patch.esp
[X] BLTC Less Addictions.esp
[ ] CubeExperimental (EN).esm
[ ] RTS.esm
[X] Project Beauty.esp
[X] StreetLights - Wasteland.esp
[X] CASM.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] GalaxyNewsRadio20[M].esp
[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp
[X] UPP - Original Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp
[ ] NotSoFast.esp
[ ] HeirApparent.esp
[ ] IntoTheDeepWoods.esp
[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp
[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[ ] Alternate Start - Roleplayers.esp
[X] RobCo Certified.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[ ] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
[X] megalight.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp
[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
[X] MissingUniqueWeapons-Enhanced.esp
[X] Realistic Death Physics.esp
[ ] Down Under.esp
[X] BookPerks.esp
[X] ImmersiveHealth.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp
[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Mutant Mod Menu.esp
[ ] Arwen_Realism_Core.esp
[ ] Arwen_Hard-Core.esp
[ ] Arwen_MMM_Patch.esp
[ ] Arwen_RiPnO_BLTC_Patch.esp
[X] Arwen_VisionFX.esp
[ ] Arwen_Encumbrance.esp
[ ] RI_PNeeds2S.esp
[ ] RI_Alcohol.esp
[ ] RI_PNMMM.esp
[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp <------Und right thar.

Well, apart from your load order looking a little untidy (You might want to run BOSS over it, or something), Dynamic Weather should be working.

I trust you're using the latest version? Using FOMM to sort and launch? Game patched?

I'm a bit stumped to be honest, mate.

:confused:

Okay now the wasteland is just depressing. It's always grey and overcasty. I swear, I've un-installed and re-installed this at least 3 times.

Wait - what?

So the weather is changing?

A quick test you can do to check if it is working. Do this in the console:

set gWeatherGroup to 1
set gWeatherVolatility to 0.1

hit enter. (You can use values of 1 to 9 for gWeatherGroup to get different weather types)

The weather should begin to change after a second or two. Do:

getCurrentWeatherPercent

in the console, where any value it returns that is less than 1.00, means the weather is changing.

~Xeph'

Wait, you got climates to work?

The value is 1. Do I need to modify the .esp?

Wait...WAAAAAAAIT....

HALT CITIZEN. I fixed my load order (that boss really messed up, and I totally forgot FWE had to be set up a certain way...Haven't used it in so long.) and I tried the commands again and the percent was 0.3.

Remember kids, keep your load order neat and tidy.

Xepha,

just to inform you,
i removed the motion blur mod i was using even though i said i didn't wanna.. originally i only installed it because it helped a bit with these odd mini lags that seem to be native to FO3. The game runs much better now which is kind of curious since i'm pretty sure the mod didn't have that much of a performance impact the first time i installed it. It's probably a result of consistently adding new mods which decreased performance in small steps each, however i think the biggest chunk is indeed caused by the combination of Dynamic Weather + Motion Blur, you're right. I still keep the DOF mod around, seems to work fine. Also, now i don't seem to have the consistently foggy weather near the Washington Monument anymore, which is great. It actually runs fine now, although that might also be caused by all the Super Mutants being dead now.

Gah Bob Saggot....It went back to 1.

Yeah, it does a bit laggy in DC Ruins areas without any extra mods anyway (for me at least). Adding extra mods and playing for a while (bloated saves and all that) does have a tendancy to bog the game down. But, glad you got it working more satisfactorily - maybe you can keep your DoF/Motion Blur around for when you aren't in the DC Ruins? The wasteland has always seemed to perform better for me even though there's a whole lot more to display than when in the DC Ruins. Wierd...




:lmao: What are you up to there mooguy?

If you want to force another weather type, as in my previous post, choose another value for gWeatherGroup:

1 = Clear skies
2 = Mostly clear skies (my custom cloud texture and/or Anchorage clouds)
3 = Cloudy (like what appears over the NorthEast of the Wasteland in Vanilla)
4 = Light Rain
5 = Cloudy/Light overcast (like what appears over the North West of the Wasteland in Vanilla)
6 = Overcast (like what appears over the DC Ruins in Vanilla)
7 = Heavy Rain
8 = Sandstorm
9 = Fog/Misty

eg:

set gWeatherGroup to 3
set gWeatherVolatility to 0.1

in the console to get cloudy weather types.

If you repeatedly do the getCurrentWeatherPercent command you'll notice it gradually working its way from 0.00 back up to 1.00

These are global variables that we're playing with here, so you don't need to modify the esp or anything. The running scripts will do a little work after you've forced it, so the values you've just used in the console will get set to something else as soon as the weather starts changing - but it will/should change to whatever you've designated first.