I really don't know how you people pirating the game justify that this somehow doesn't hurt Crytek. It's really an impressive web of logical fallacies, selfishness, and not thinking. This absolutely hurts PC gaming and you guys don't even care. You guys already chased off Epic and are in the process of chasing off a dev who truly believes in you guys and has consistently gone out of their way to say so/prove it. I'm in awe really.

Oh, and on the notion that the majority of pirates buy games, just look at /v/ right now and all the other communities not shy about piracy. The "Wow, this game svcks so now I don't have to buy it despite the fact I'm going to put the time in to finish it" has already taken it's course.

Let me tell you something moronic retarded soul..good ass kissing by the way at least i use my english right knowing and speaking 3 languages it makes me smarter and more intelligent than you...you svck up ass kissing moron. you need to detach your lips from cryteks ass maybe we can have a convo. Open your eyes and see the reality. retard.

First off, you know nothing about me.

Second, the grammar in that paragraph is still terrible.

Finally, you are a sheep.


Really? have you seen your grammar? my 5 year old brother can do better than you..i can tell you have no brain..it's empty why don't you make it an aquarium ? it will be use of something... better than coming here making stupid posts embarrassing yourself...you know you are stupid right? let's see your fat nerd ass speak 3 languages.

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2006/03/6418.ars other studies were made I don't know if one was made specifically for games but it is anologous.

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2006/03/6418.ars other studies were made I don't know if one was made specifically for games but it is anologous.

Okay, it is a good start for sure, but still doesn't nullify the effect of piracy on the whole, or account for those who do not buy the content after "previewing" it.

Once again, don't get me wrong. I know there are those out there who downloading something before paying for it, and buy it afterwards. It's the people who don't buy the content after using it that are the problem.

I won't argue the pro's and con's of Piracy, but I will say this:

I have played Crysis and Warhead on my PC. I can't run the games' with all the bells and whistles, but they were two of my favorite titles of all time. Primarily being a console player myself, without any footage of the PC and PS3 versions of Crysis 2... I haven't been concerned about the final product. Especially with the recent release of the 360 beta with all its problems.

With the numerous videos of gameplay hitting the net from the leaked beta I am now convinced that I have to get the game. And without those gameplay videos I would have happily written the game off in favor of Killzone 3.

I really don't know how you people pirating the game justify that this somehow doesn't hurt Crytek. It's really an impressive web of logical fallacies, selfishness, and not thinking. This absolutely hurts PC gaming and you guys don't even care. You guys already chased off Epic and are in the process of chasing off a dev who truly believes in you guys and has consistently gone out of their way to say so/prove it. I'm in awe really.

Oh, and on the notion that the majority of pirates buy games, just look at /v/ right now and all the other communities not shy about piracy. The "Wow, this game svcks so now I don't have to buy it despite the fact I'm going to put the time in to finish it" has already taken it's course.

You are thoroughly misinformed and I feel bad for you. Just like developers who cry about piracy. The market is increased by the exposure that piracy brings. and did you just say we chased off Epic? Laughable. They chased off all their PC fanbase with UT3 that was the worst console port ever made and started a trend in PC development that PC is nothing more than an extension of consoles and I am affraid that Crytek might go down the same drain and kill PC gaming even more.

I really don't know how you people pirating the game justify that this somehow doesn't hurt Crytek. It's really an impressive web of logical fallacies, selfishness, and not thinking. This absolutely hurts PC gaming and you guys don't even care. You guys already chased off Epic and are in the process of chasing off a dev who truly believes in you guys and has consistently gone out of their way to say so/prove it. I'm in awe really.

Oh, and on the notion that the majority of pirates buy games, just look at /v/ right now and all the other communities not shy about piracy. The "Wow, this game svcks so now I don't have to buy it despite the fact I'm going to put the time in to finish it" has already taken it's course.

Oh man, someone with a brain and the ability to use logic. Thank you.

Unfortunately, there are too many mindless users on here to listen to reason. It sad.

Omg i hope they get destroyed. Anything change on release date or beta?

sure would like to know about the pc demo

Okay, it is a good start for sure, but still doesn't nullify the effect of piracy on the whole, or account for those who do not buy the content after "previewing" it.

Once again, don't get me wrong. I know there are those out there who downloading something before paying for it, and buy it afterwards. It's the people who don't buy the content after using it that are the problem.

You clearly did not read the article for saying something like this.

I really don't know how you people pirating the game justify that this somehow doesn't hurt Crytek. It's really an impressive web of logical fallacies, selfishness, and not thinking. This absolutely hurts PC gaming and you guys don't even care. You guys already chased off Epic and are in the process of chasing off a dev who truly believes in you guys and has consistently gone out of their way to say so/prove it. I'm in awe really.

Oh, and on the notion that the majority of pirates buy games, just look at /v/ right now and all the other communities not shy about piracy. The "Wow, this game svcks so now I don't have to buy it despite the fact I'm going to put the time in to finish it" has already taken it's course.
and did you just say we chased off Epic? Laughable. They chased off all their PC fanbase with UT3 that was the worst console port ever made and started a trend in PC development that PC is nothing more than an extension of consoles and I am affraid that Crytek might go down the same drain and kill PC gaming even more.
Yeah, in no way are the sales comparable to the "exposure" piracy brings to games. You can pretend that's true all you want but the finances just don't reflect that. I feel bad for you that you've somehow convinced yourself that stealing software that people make their livelihood on is somehow a good thing.

UT3 was a **** console port because you guys pirated the hell out of the rest of their games and they deemed it better to make the game geared more towards those platforms. You people consistently bich about the effect without giving any thought to what might be the cause.

God damn it.

so how about that demo then?

People ,people just wait fro the game on March 22nd and have fun with it ! Trust me the finished product will be way better .

I honestly feel no sympathy or anger at all. It serves you right for treating the community like **** the whole time.

Yeah, in no way are the sales comparable to the "exposure" piracy brings to games. You can pretend that's true all you want but the finances just don't reflect that. I feel bad for you that you've somehow convinced yourself that stealing software that people make their livelihood on is somehow a good thing.

UT3 was a **** console port because you guys pirated the hell out of the rest of their games and they deemed it better to make the game geared more towards those platforms. You people consistently bich about the effect without giving any thought to what might be the cause.


Your ignorance is appalling. To answer your first point, I'm not prending anything, studies clearly shows the truth about the situation. And your logic that piracy caused them to make bad games is so retarded, PC gaming was way more popular before UE3 and the decline of the quality of PC games, and it's only after that they started blaming piracy.

so how about that demo then?

its been rumored that it will come out feb 16, or they might announce it feb 16.
but somwhere around there

I honestly feel no sympathy or anger at all. It serves you right for treating the community like **** the whole time.

i have that feeling to, but i still remain loyal to the company,
i already pre ordered the game

People ,people just wait fro the game on March 22nd and have fun with it ! Trust me the finished product will be way better .

we know it will be way better, its so good that some of us cant wait, thats the problem

Your ignorance is appalling. To answer your first point, I'm not prending anything, studies clearly shows the truth about the situation. And your logic that piracy caused them to make bad games is so retarded, PC gaming was way more popular before UE3 and the decline of the quality of PC games, and it's only after that they started blaming piracy.

That's cool. Feel free to be appealed, could care less.

Those "studies" are highly subjective and can't possible give an all encompassing picture of the situation and it's foolish to believe that they somehow can. Unless you can somehow track down EVERY single person who pirates games and prove they bought most of the ones they pirates...then none of that really matters. Let me know when that study comes out and maybe you'll have the start(and only a start) to a decent point.

People ,people just wait fro the game on March 22nd and have fun with it ! Trust me the finished product will be way better .

we know it will be way better, its so good that some of us cant wait, thats the problem

True, very true..... i will wait for it.

I can guarantee that the leak was from an internal employee because of all the information that is contained within it. So look to your staff first and foremost. And don't point at a single platform based community for all the chaos this must be brining.

Expect money coming your way EA/Crytek for the preorder of the limited edition once I receive my income taxes.
I can repeat this....

Piracy continues to damage the PC development community.
Ahh, so easy to blame another.

Piracy continues to damage the PC development community.
Ahh, so easy to blame another.
Why just a single platform ? Oh why?

HOW noob must a company be to save all the game files into an ONLINE server. Thats your fault crytek, game files etc should be saved into computers with no internet access.

Maybe some developers leaked it who knows...