Hi,

Looked through the Imperial Library but couldn't find anything relevent. Can somebody tell me when the East Empire Trading Company (EETC) was formed, when it was brought to Morrowind(/Vvardenfel), who it was founded by, and who originally ran the Vvardenfel branch?

Can somebody also tell me when Suran was founded?

Thanks in advance.

Can't really help you with the East Empire Trading Company, but according to http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/short_morrowind.shtml, when Vvardenfell became an Imperial Provincial District in 3E414 and the Temple ban on trade and settlement in Vvardenfell was revoked, Vvardenfell went through a stage of massive development. The book says that "in the decades after reorganization, Balmora and the Ascadian Isles regions have grown steadily," and so it is safe to say that Suran grew into its current state (as seen in ES:III) sometime between 3E414 and the events of Morrowind.

Yes, places like Ald-Ruhn and others liely pre-date the ban, but Suran does not strike me as so venerable.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the East Empire Company was created especially for Morrowind. There aren't many resources to be had in Black Marsh, and neither Skyrim nor Elsweyr seem as ripe for monopoly and mercantilism. So it is likely a recent creation or a revived relic from the days when Reman forced Vivec to plee for terms.

I believe it is named after the East India Trading Company.

Pretty blatantly. But at least it's from the British Empire rather than the Roman one.

Heh, I resisted the urge to put in my first post "I can't help you with the East Empire Trading Company, but the British East India Company was founded in 1600." I doubt the Company will start dumping Colovian-made textiles on Vvardenfell any time soon, however.

It's the other way around. My guess is that it works more like the Casa de Contracion, which dumped precious metals into Spain.

or the dutch 'verenigde oost-indische compagnie', in english united east india company, which was there before the british dudes came over

The VOIC did not, however, have nearly the lasting impact on India that the BEIC did. When you think of a Company in the age of imperialism, you invariably think of the BEIC.

Either way, nothing in TES can be sufficiently equated to anything in the real-world, and trying to do so takes all the fun out of the lore.

it did have a big impact on indonesia though

One would think that Skyrim would have plenty of gem deposits like solstheim. Elsweyr probably has a lot of rare flora that could lead to great profit, and black marsh, well, you're right. Black Marsh probably sux.

Black Marsh likely has enough pharmeceutical plants to push Nirn into the Scientific Revolution, but whatever.

The problem is that the scientific principle is not well accepted in Tamriel's scholastic circles. Magical Dogma pervades the scene like the foul stench of an outhouse, overwhelming any other viewpoints.

Can you blame them? Magic cannot supplant technology if technology is available to the masses.

Practicality has a role to play here as well. It depends on which is more practical to the user. In as diverse a world as the TES universe, there will invariably be people born with so much magickal power that they could fart lighting and fireballs, (possibly literally.)-- and there will be people that find a technological solution more practical by the same turn.


I'd say it is foolish to totally discount one or the other inside the TES universe, but that is just my own take on the situation... I'd love to see an altmer's reaction to seeing an exothermic chain reaction.

So why is it that in Morrowind, Maiq had his wonderful headgear, a Colovian Fur helmet? Cant find a single one in Cyrodiil.

There's lots of fur helmets in Colovia. So I guess those would count as Colovian Fur Helmets.

Nah, They are nowhere near as fashionable. I believe Maiq in Oblivion actually says he cant find any Colovian Fur helms.. something like that.

edit: yes, "M'aiq longs for a Colovian Fur Helm. Practical, yet stylish. M'aiq is very sad he does not have one."

The East Empire Trading Company is little more than a cover for the Mudcrab Militaristic Movement Conspiracy (MMMC).

Besides the few beggars in the Waterfront and a bit of dialog in the DB questline what we know is from TES3: Bloodmoon. From the sounds of it Solstheim went belly up but was part of different ambitious endeavors. As for Suran, I haven't played in awhile but as I recall it is relatively ancient by Cyrodiilic (not elven) standards.