So how exactly does Alduin eat the world when he does? Did it ever happen? When?

Does he literally go and eat Mundus the forces everyone on there to go through the Dreamsleeve to reincarnate and start a new world? or what?

And when the world is eating, is there any concept of time? I mean does it start at year 0? or continues from the same year the world was eaten in?

Take a piece of candy, like a skittle. Throw it in your mouth and chew. You just imitated Alduin eating Mundus.

And remember, time consumes us all. Except that Alduin makes it a little more literal.

I'm pretty sure MK has said on this forum that we should take it literally.

So that's it? No more Mundus? Nothing is left of Mundus and the Aedra are free again?

Free in his tummy. The altmer are wrong, and will only become the god of time's poop.

Then it all starts over again.

No...the world will just start all over again like the last [NUMINIT] times he's eaten it. Unless someone manages to break him proper, so badly he goes away for a long time or never comes back, but that would have unforeseen consequences.

But what happens in the new world? Does it continue from the beginning? Year 0? History begins from the beginning and the same things happen again or what?

Alduin eats the world, then the world begins, Alduin and Shorr fight, Shorr loses his heart, recorded history happens, Alduin eats the world, then the world begins...

So the world would be eaten every time at that certain date 200 years after the Oblivion Crisis?

Each Kalpa has been mostly the same, not completely.

So how many times exactly was the world eaten? do we know?

And is that basically the Godhead's Dream then? Dreaming about the same thing again and again, how boring =_=

We don't know.

Yes, but there won't always be a cycle of Kalpas. Individuals have escaped the cycle, but soon humanity will; it's an eventual progress.

Who escaped the cycle?

And does your last comment suggests TES V or what?

BTW don't know if it's a coincidence or not but:
By Lady Neverar in http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/921446-world-eating-101/page__st__120
Five is the number of the limits of this world. [shall we see the end which is really just a new beginning? fragments do not stay fragmented long]
The fifth song of King Wulfharth is sad. The survivors of the disaster came back under a red sky. [the first era mirrors the fourth and again we have a Year of Sun's Death]
Sermon Five is of the new god's discovery. [the Gods are we but greater, mantling the concepts from which the Wheel is built]
Sermon Five-teen tells of the Sharmat. [The opponent, the False-Dreamer, the Rebel, the mirror-vision who-is-I]
Sermon twenty-Five is of the City that is God, effortlessly trans-immortal, egg, image, man, god, city, state. [Does this indeed require explanation?]
Sermon thirty-Five is of Love. [Which certainly does not require explanation, for it is provided in the Letter]

First two ones sound interesting
5? TESV? New Beginning? First Era Mirrors the Fourth?

What are the 5 limits of the world btw?

That post is not right.

Magnus escapes the cycle every time, then shows the others how.

I'm talking about a final escape of epic proportions, like Landfall proportions. It hasn't happened yet, and TESV isn't likely, but I can't say what their plans are for the series. Maybe they'll stop at 12, maybe 6. I can't say.

Well, we're essentially talking about a cyclical view of time here; which makes that question impossible to answer, perhaps even makes the question completely invalid.

Since I just finished reading one of the books, I'm reminded of how all the Wheel of Time books begin:

"this is not the beginning, there are no beginnings on the Wheel of Time, but this is a beginning..."

The fact that the trailer specifically mentions that dragons were "defeated" in this kalpa implies that something peculiar is happening this cycle around. It has been suggested that Akatosh-as-we-know-him might not have existed in previous kalpas. With the Selectives' redefinition of the Dragon God of Time as a sympathizer of Men (and therefore, by extension, Lorkhan), who knows what could happen? The three figures preceding Dovahkiin on the Wall of Alduin seem to suggest they have already extended the length of the current kalpa beyond its traditional scope.

But frankly, what we know about previous kalpas is sketchy and based mostly on conjecture anyway. We only know that the world has been eaten and remade before, probably many, many times, and that it's changing a little bit every time, thanks to the Greedy Man.

Yeah...wasn't it stated on Gamespot back when that tapestry thing was decoded officially that Alduin was actually stopped the last time he tried to eat the world? I might be mistaken however. Is the link still up anywhere or does anyone remember it better than me? I'd look myself but it's almost my bedtime.

Yep, presumably you're thinking of http://media1.gameinformer.com/images/site/pages/esv/index.html?es=5? The first two elements of the wall (left to right) are:

I just had the craziest thought. Could the three figures trapping Alduin be the Maruhkati Selectives, in their attempt to remove the anti-human aspects of the Dragon God of Time? I would imagine that trapping Alduin would have massive ramifications on time, and be no easy task. The Selectives' attempt to remove the anti-human aspects, similarly being no easy task, resulted in a rather massive dragon break, lasting 1,008 years (interestingly, Fight One describes Dagon pleading to Aka to remove his curse, 100,008 times).

The only thing that makes me question that is that it's said the Selectives were trying to rid the Elven High God (Auriel) aspects from Akatosh, not Alduin's aspects. But if you take The Tower that the Selectives danced on to mean "The Ideal" as described in ...the Tower, removing all anti-human aspects (including Alduin's epoch-eating ways) would fit that. In other words, they started by trying to remove Auriel from Akatosh, then Alduin woke up for a snack and the "ideal" appeared before them. They tried to remove both Auriel and Alduin, to make The God of Time 100% pro-human. The result is Alduin being knocked back asleep and a 1,008 year long dragon break.

Aka is short for Akatosh I take it?
And what is Dagon's curse?

And Alduin wasn't knocked back asleep, unless you mean in a metaphorical way, a Dragon Break is when he dies and goes through the Dreamsleeve, which took him 1008 years. No?

Yes.


He's cursed to be Dagon, the Prince of Destruction. He was the Leaper Demon King, and liked Leaping about. http://imperial-library.info/content/fight-one-eating-birth-dagon.


A dragon break is when time (the dragon) is broken, and becomes non-linear. You can be born before your father, Cyrodiil can become an egg and a galactic empire, and other such oddities. He doesn't "die" and go through the dreamsleeve, AFAIK, the Jills mend him back together and try to fix the timeline. The break the Selectives caused took 1008 years to fix up.

We don't know exactly what the Selectives did, though. They tried to disprove that Akatosh was Auriel, and failed. They then channeled the Aurbis itself to mythically remove the displeasing aspects from Akatosh, when "a staff or tower" appeared and they "danced" on it, "until it writhed and trembled and spoke its protonymic" (http://imperial-library.info/content/where-were-you-when-dragon-broke-complete-version). According to http://imperial-library.info/content/tower, "The Tower is an ideal, which, in our world of myth and magic, means that it is so real that it becomes dangerous." My hypothesis is that the Selectives were trying to remove the Auriel-aspects from Akatosh, when they saw the ideal Akatosh at the same time that Alduin woke up to eat, which, coincidentally, was when Alessia, the first of the dragonborn-emperors, was ruling. After "dancing on" the ideal Akatosh, he spoke his protonymic, and "banished" Alduin. Of course, you don't go about banishing some aspect of time without reprecusions, so.. dragon break. 1,008 years later, the Jills got the Time God back together, but Alduin remained asleep. Until Skyrim.

Granted, though, some of it is a bit of a stretch to fit. I said it was a crazy idea. I just find it interesting how some of it fits together.

He's meaning Akatosh or he's meaning Dagon?

Would you quote what you're asking about?