Ebonheart House Mod v1.5 : III

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:50 am

The other day I was playing Morrowind with the http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6002 by Yellowdude installed.

Once I located the entrance and activate the door this http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9312/mgescreenshot14.png pop up.
I've really no idea what the missing object is, so I would appreciate help from anyone who have any knowledge about this.

I can only guess that object is from a mod or something. Thanks in advance.

loadorder

Spoiler

_001_ Morrowind.esm_002_ Tribunal.esm_003_ Bloodmoon.esm_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm_005_ Book Rotate.esm_006_ Weapon Rotate.esm_007_ GDR_MasterFile.esm_008_ TR_Data.esm_009_ TR_Map1.esm_010_ TR_Map2.esm_011_ MCA.esm_012_ Rise of House Telvanni.esm_013_ Better Bodies.esp_014_ Merchant Investments.esp_015_ Siege at Firemoth.esp_016_ EBQ_Artifact.esp_017_ entertainers.esp_018_ bcsounds.esp_019_ adamantiumarmor.esp_020_ AreaEffectArrows.esp_021_ master_index.esp_022_ Master Index Upgrade.esp_023_ ASH 2.0.esp_024_ Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp_025_ Secret_Master's_Alchemy_Equipment_v1.0.esp_026_ Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp_027_ Grass_AC&S.esp_028_ Vurt's Solstheim Trees & Bushes Replacer.esp_029_ Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp_030_ Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp_031_ Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp_032_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp_033_ Weapon Rotate - Tribunal.esp_034_ Weapon Rotate - Bloodmoon.esp_035_ Weapon Rotate - Vendors.esp_036_ Books of Vvardenfell_2.0.esp_037_ BB_Grimoires.esp_038_ BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.esp_039_ Westly's Master Headpack X.esp_040_ MCA - COV Addon.esp_041_ MCA - Guards Patch.esp_042_ MCA - TR Addon.esp_043_ Balmora Lockpick and Probe Merchant.esp_044_ Balmora Soul Gem Merchant.esp_045_ Bloodmoon Vendor.esp_046_ ChaniBalmoraVendor.esp_047_ TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp_048_ Betterarmourtmcl.esp_049_ Ald Velothi Transport.esp_050_ BetterWeaponsTmcl.esp_051_ Better armor (rev14_Glass).esp_052_ full_glass_armor.esp_053_ Glass_Gauntlets.esp_054_ Glass Gauntlets 10.esp_055_ Dragonbone Armor [v.1.2].esp_056_ dreugh_armor_set.esp_057_ DM_DB Armor Replacer-Exp.esp_058_ Stalhrim Stuff.esp_059_ Golden Saint Armor.esp_060_ St. Nerevar's Armor.esp_061_ Daedric Armour Of Vvardenfell - Easier.esp_062_ Daedra Armory.esp_063_ Dremora Armour Mod.esp_064_ DremoraLords.esp_065_ A Dagon Fel House.esp_066_ A place to stay.esp_067_ Daedric_House-1501.esp_068_ Dwarfen_UnderwaterHome.esp_069_ Ghostgate_Sactuary.esp_070_ hidaway001.esp_071_ LOCH_Strider_Hovel.esp_072_ Maar Gan Hut.esp_073_ Seydaneencottage_V1.0_Clean.esp_074_ The Apartment.esp_075_ AmalyanTempleRelease1.esp_076_ Buy A House.esp_077_ Buy A House (Mournhold).esp_078_ fgbasemant.esp_079_ Better Balmora river.esp_080_ Amulet of Icarian flight.esp_081_ bjam_enchantement.esp_082_ sit_down_in_Morrowind.esp_083_ Amulets and Rings 2.1 Upgrade A.esp_084_ Sleepers Robe.esp_085_ Wizard Hats 1.0.esp_086_ UniqueFinery.esp_087_ DN-GDRv1.esp_088_ The Sable Dragon 1.5.esp_089_ Thirsk Expanded.esp_090_ TGD01_TheRatInThePot_gMenu.esp_091_ TGD01_TheRatInThePot_tMenu.esp_092_ TGD01_TheRatInThePot_iSupport.esp_093_ DD Whats on the Menu.esp_094_ seyda_neen_boat.esp_095_ Redaynia Village.esp_096_ Scout's Services 2.esp_097_ Scout's Services - Companion Travel.esp_098_ Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp_099_ UL_RoHT_1.3_Compatibility.esp_100_ Mashed Lists.esp

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:13 pm

The other day I was playing Morrowind with the http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6002 by Yellowdude installed.

Once I located the entrance and activate the door this http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9312/mgescreenshot14.png pop up.
I've really no idea what the missing object is, so I would appreciate help from anyone who have any knowledge about this.

I can only guess that object is from a mod or something. Thanks in advance.

loadorder

Spoiler

_001_ Morrowind.esm_002_ Tribunal.esm_003_ Bloodmoon.esm_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm_005_ Book Rotate.esm_006_ Weapon Rotate.esm_007_ GDR_MasterFile.esm_008_ TR_Data.esm_009_ TR_Map1.esm_010_ TR_Map2.esm_011_ MCA.esm_012_ Rise of House Telvanni.esm_013_ Better Bodies.esp_014_ Merchant Investments.esp_015_ Siege at Firemoth.esp_016_ EBQ_Artifact.esp_017_ entertainers.esp_018_ bcsounds.esp_019_ adamantiumarmor.esp_020_ AreaEffectArrows.esp_021_ master_index.esp_022_ Master Index Upgrade.esp_023_ ASH 2.0.esp_024_ Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp_025_ Secret_Master's_Alchemy_Equipment_v1.0.esp_026_ Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp_027_ Grass_AC&S.esp_028_ Vurt's Solstheim Trees & Bushes Replacer.esp_029_ Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp_030_ Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp_031_ Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp_032_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp_033_ Weapon Rotate - Tribunal.esp_034_ Weapon Rotate - Bloodmoon.esp_035_ Weapon Rotate - Vendors.esp_036_ Books of Vvardenfell_2.0.esp_037_ BB_Grimoires.esp_038_ BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.esp_039_ Westly's Master Headpack X.esp_040_ MCA - COV Addon.esp_041_ MCA - Guards Patch.esp_042_ MCA - TR Addon.esp_043_ Balmora Lockpick and Probe Merchant.esp_044_ Balmora Soul Gem Merchant.esp_045_ Bloodmoon Vendor.esp_046_ ChaniBalmoraVendor.esp_047_ TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp_048_ Betterarmourtmcl.esp_049_ Ald Velothi Transport.esp_050_ BetterWeaponsTmcl.esp_051_ Better armor (rev14_Glass).esp_052_ full_glass_armor.esp_053_ Glass_Gauntlets.esp_054_ Glass Gauntlets 10.esp_055_ Dragonbone Armor [v.1.2].esp_056_ dreugh_armor_set.esp_057_ DM_DB Armor Replacer-Exp.esp_058_ Stalhrim Stuff.esp_059_ Golden Saint Armor.esp_060_ St. Nerevar's Armor.esp_061_ Daedric Armour Of Vvardenfell - Easier.esp_062_ Daedra Armory.esp_063_ Dremora Armour Mod.esp_064_ DremoraLords.esp_065_ A Dagon Fel House.esp_066_ A place to stay.esp_067_ Daedric_House-1501.esp_068_ Dwarfen_UnderwaterHome.esp_069_ Ghostgate_Sactuary.esp_070_ hidaway001.esp_071_ LOCH_Strider_Hovel.esp_072_ Maar Gan Hut.esp_073_ Seydaneencottage_V1.0_Clean.esp_074_ The Apartment.esp_075_ AmalyanTempleRelease1.esp_076_ Buy A House.esp_077_ Buy A House (Mournhold).esp_078_ fgbasemant.esp_079_ Better Balmora river.esp_080_ Amulet of Icarian flight.esp_081_ bjam_enchantement.esp_082_ sit_down_in_Morrowind.esp_083_ Amulets and Rings 2.1 Upgrade A.esp_084_ Sleepers Robe.esp_085_ Wizard Hats 1.0.esp_086_ UniqueFinery.esp_087_ DN-GDRv1.esp_088_ The Sable Dragon 1.5.esp_089_ Thirsk Expanded.esp_090_ TGD01_TheRatInThePot_gMenu.esp_091_ TGD01_TheRatInThePot_tMenu.esp_092_ TGD01_TheRatInThePot_iSupport.esp_093_ DD Whats on the Menu.esp_094_ seyda_neen_boat.esp_095_ Redaynia Village.esp_096_ Scout's Services 2.esp_097_ Scout's Services - Companion Travel.esp_098_ Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp_099_ UL_RoHT_1.3_Compatibility.esp_100_ Mashed Lists.esp

I can only say that the reference is to either a book or a note, indicated by the "Bk" at the beginning of the object ID, that being said however, I don't know what mod it comes from, though I assume it would be relatively easy to find out by just hitting the details button in the CS and looking to see what mod that object is referenced in......I'm sure there is an easier way, but that is how I would find it.

Edit: BTW, there any reason you have so many house mods in that list?

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:27 pm

I can only say that the reference is to either a book or a note, indicated by the "Bk" at the beginning of the object ID, that being said however, I don't know what mod it comes from, though I assume it would be relatively easy to find out by just hitting the details button in the CS and looking to see what mod that object is referenced in......I'm sure there is an easier way, but that is how I would find it.

Edit: BTW, there any reason you have so many house mods in that list?

Thanks for your quick reply matilija.

The only thing I notice was a http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Dwemer_Scarab_Plans on the lower book shelf in the single room.

Yes, I really want to test those house mods.

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:19 pm

It looks to me like the person that made Ebonheart_House_Mod.ace accidentally created a dependency on objects from other mods. Some mod he had loaded defined the object bk_armionalphabet, but since he didn't include that object and didn't document the dependency, it's not even worth using.

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:24 pm

It looks to me like the person that made Ebonheart_House_Mod.ace accidentally created a dependency on objects from other mods. Some mod he had loaded defined the object bk_armionalphabet, but since he didn't include that object and didn't document the dependency, it's not even worth using.

That was the first thought that occur to me, because when I check that mod in the Wrye Mash SA it only shown Morrowind.esm it's dependency.

Is there any way to remove that *bad* reference in any tool without change the plugin to much?

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:57 pm

Is there any way to remove that *bad* reference in any tool without change the plugin to much?

Enchanted Editor can probably do that, but I've never used it.

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:29 am

Enchanted Editor can probably do that, but I've never used it.

Either do I, but thanks anyway John.

I'm still optimist that I can use another tool.

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:55 pm

I'm still optimist that I can use another tool.

Well, if command line tools are okay with you my http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Tes3cmd#delete_-_Delete_records/subrecords/object_instances_from_plugin command should be able to do it. The command would be:

tes3cmd delete --instance-match bk_armion "Ebonheart House Mod V1.5.esp"

(the latest version of tes3cmd is tes3cmd-0.37o-2010.08.20)

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:10 pm

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=other.detail&id=53 is also very good. open the esp with it then scroll until you find the dirty reference. unfortunatly the only tutorial for it I know is in french.

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:08 pm

Enchanted Editor (and Tesame) are very easy to use.
Just open the esp, find the object (probably under the Book section) and delete it. Be sure to Save, too.

» Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:18 pm

Thank you guys for the input of useful information.

john.moonsugar: I appreciate your suggestion about the tes3cmd with the line command, but I think I'm gonna to save it as a last resort if nothing else isn't working.

Sankekur1: Apparently the tesame doesn't work for me when I tried to remove a reference of that mod. Perhaps a translated tutorial for tesame is available somewhere.

Pluto: Well it seems to me I must learn how the Enchanted Editor really works, because I begin to know now how powerful that tool really is.

I'm grateful for your help and again thank you guys. :wink_smile: