Actualy you would see alot MORE ebony and glass as the big boom likely blew billions of tons of the stuff all over the sea floor where it can be fished out with nets.

Let's not forget ourselves here. Armor lasts a long time. Even when it's left around in a tomb, it still takes a while for it to become so decayed that it can't be repaired. So even though(theoretically) there are no new sets of ebony or glass armor being made, there are still tens of thousands of pieces of armor, and thousands of complete sets just floating around, not counting the ones on display in homes, buried in tombs, and on corpses. So it's not like they would be uncommon. The armor has been made for a long time.

Thanks for the responses!

Either way I hope the high end armours are very hard to come by. The very best armour in the game should require days of searching before you can get a hold of a full set.

This.

I'd say that glass, ebony, and especially Daedric should be rare to begin with, the state of Vvardenfell has nothing to do with it, the best equipment in the game isn't supposed to be something you can find easily, you should have to work for things like that. Besides, in past games, the same types of armor tended to be rare, so it seemed somewhat inconsistent to see common enemies wearing Daedric armor in Oblivion. But I'm sure Bethesda will improve on this in Skyrim. Considering that the level scaling, both for enemies and loot, seems to pretty much be the most consistently criticized aspect of Oblivion, it would be foolish not to try to fix it in Skyrim.



I doubt that the average murauder was in the habit of raiding Oblivion gates, and that still doesn't explain where all that ebony and glass comes from.

I think that such high quality equipment should be rare and limited. In Morrowind, whenever you saw someone with some outstanding armour like Dwemer or Glass, you knew he or she was a person of importance or someone not to be messed with and not just a common bandit camping on the side of the road.

Rarity also made such items much more valuable and also fun to collect. However, I do hope Daedric armour is not like in Vanilla Morrowind, where we can't get the full set without murdering Divayth Fyr.

And this would make daedric armor mutch rarer too!.. after all daedric armor IS ebony with daedric souls forged into it...

Which was a pretty poor way to handle the influx of Daedric armor in my opinion (next to every Marauder and his grandmother wearing a set) as the 'armor' on Dremora was actually their skin. Having every Valkynaz drop a full set of Daedric Armor (minus the gauntlets) while you couldn't loot any armor from the lesser ranks was a bit disappointing from my perspective. I would have rather liked the armor to be unlootable and the Dremora vanishing in black smoke while their weapon was left in a puddle of goo

Stalhrim and Nordic Mail too, I hope!

You know i always considered the abundance of glass and ebony in Oblivion to be caused by the Nerevarine defeating Dagoth-Ur and stabilising the regime in Morrowind and thus opening up a large area of Vvardenfel to the imperial mining companies. Then when the Oblivion crisis rolled around the elder council ordered a shed-load of supplies from morrowind but they were intercepted by bandits. Thats my explanation for the abundance of those materials (daedric being common due to the daedric invasion of course,duh).

Anyways, with Vvardenfel being even more of a volcanic wasteland nowadays the export of glass and ebony would definitely have decreased, as to daedric, the empire probably did a similar program of disposal as after Battlespire. So all of these materials are probably more rare now but we are still probably feeling the effects of the massive influx during the oblivion crisis by them being not quite as rare as in Morrowind (seriously ONE incomplete (one pauldron missing) set of daedric guaranteedly acquirable in the vanilla game?)

Hopefully the higher tiers of armour will either be extremely rare, or extremely expensive. In Oblivion they were just handed to you, kinda like the "welfare epics" from WotLK heroics.

Besides, increased rarity of better gear will make it all the more satisfying when you finally get your hands on it.

i feel really stupid now but i seem to of missed the whole Vvarvendell blowing up thing, i really don't rmember that anywhere :confused:
could anyone tell me where to find?

They could have done it like in Morrowind, the Dremora upon death went *poof* and left only their shield and weapon, problem solved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infernal_City

Maybe they are widely available now, if the game takes place hundred or more years after the events from Oblivion.

Just to kill all misconceptions regarding "looting" daedric armor off of dead dremora:

From http://www.imperial-library.info/content/lesser-daedra

Like Miltiades stated the armor you see worn by Dremora is actually their skin, the armor you get as the player is ebony armor that has been infused with a dremora's soul and enchanted to try and recreate the toughness of dremora skin. The crafting of such armor is said to be extremely difficult, hence why the armor is "supposed" to be extremely rare.

I really, REALLY hope they go back to making these armors extremely rare again and make spread the various pieces around for the player to hunt down, that just makes it feel so much more rewarding when you manage to get it all ^^

As long as they're rare it doesn't matter where they come from.

YES THANK YOU. This would make Skyrim instantly 100 times better than obivion.

I hope aside from the dragons in the open attacking randomly I hope there are some like Smaug guarding a ton of loot , that you need a party of a few companians to reach.

Ebony is an ore. It is not a volcanic glass.

Excerpt from The Armorer's Challenge


It's even smeltable and can be folded much as metals can be. In my opinion it is some weird metal.

Glass in the TES series is a bit different. It is not volcanic glass as people might understand it. It is called glass and it is supposedly volcanic in origin, and it is actually described as volcanic glass. but, it is also a metal apparently.



Your Earthly connotations to the words glass and ebony only hinder the understanding of what the stuff actually is in Tamriel.

what about DRAGON SCALE ARMOR
and some more differend materials

the game would be even more fun if they would have lets say 3 differend kinds of each armor ....so for example 3 differend looking steel armors

and more more and much more special armors and weapons

Only higher ranked enemies / NPCs should have better gear, make the world feel realistic and not completely glassy/ebonishy/deadric like in OB, but not as rare as MW.

ahh thanks for that, missing that would of made me hugely unaware of some the big changes that happened since OB

I'd think glass and ebony would be more available than before. Before it had to be mined out of the ground. After the volcano, it would have been spewed up all over the place. After the lava cooled off, it should be easier to find deposits near or on the surface.

King Hlaalu Helseth, on 26 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

"Just came up with an idea:
How about you can help some people trying to smuggle some Ebony from Morrowind making it really rare, not every 2nd bandit has Ebony armour. That'd be fun."

I hope the above idea is the case... I had a similar idea after one of those european magazines said something along the lines "there are some guards there, guarding the path to morrowind". My first thought was, why would you be guarding a path to a place that would most likely mean certian death if you went down? Lava, valcanic gasses and so on.

With the state of civil war, something along your idea would make sense. Something down that path gives somebody, some group or some region, a advantage in skyrim, be it weapons, wealth or resources.