Elder Scroll?

Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:25 am

okay i know the wiki site has info and people in skyrim know about it but anyways who wrote the Elder Scroll? and to what end?
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Emilie Joseph
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:19 am

See the Elder Scrolls Lore board ---> http://www.gamesas.com/forum/16-elder-scrolls-lore/
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Meghan Terry
 
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 10:02 pm

They are Aedric prophecies of unknown origin and number, being simultaneously archives of both historic and future events.

It's really worth checking out on the UESP. Here's a link. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Elder_Scrolls
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:33 pm

They are knowledge of the future and the past. There are infinitly many of them, and they are manifested as the scrolls within the realm of Nirn. So its safe to say that there are others on other worlds, and other planes.
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Sarah Kim
 
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:28 pm

I would wager a guess that that they are somehow tied to Akatosh, but that is mere speculation on my part as I am not a lore buff by any means. The UESP says they are of unknown origin, but since Akatosh is the "Dragon God of Time" I would imagine that he would play a large role in the Scrolls' origin and why they hold the secrets to the past and future and why the number of them is unknowable.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:31 am

I would wager a guess that that they are somehow tied to Akatosh, but that is mere speculation on my part as I am not a lore buff by any means. The UESP says they are of unknown origin, but since Akatosh is the "Dragon God of Time" I would imagine that he would play a large role in the Scrolls' origin and why they hold the secrets to the past and future and why the number of them is unknowable.
My understanding is the scrolls are just how the knowledge of the Aedra is manifested in the plane of Mundas. But, like you, I am no lore buff either.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 9:02 pm

They are Aedric prophecies of unknown origin and number, being simultaneously archives of both historic and future events.

It's really worth checking out on the UESP. Here's a link. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Elder_Scrolls

Don't use the UESP for lore, ever. Even if the page is right, and I'm not sure if that one is.

Use the sources directly.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:03 pm

My understanding is the scrolls are just how the knowledge of the Aedra is manifested in the plane of Mundas. But, like you, I am no lore buff either.
The Elder Scrolls are far beyond the Aedra and Daedra. Any idea of an Aedric affiliation is a misnomer.

Also, it's spelled "Mundus."
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:48 am

Don't use the UESP for lore, ever. Even if the page is right, and I'm not sure if that one is.

Use the sources directly.
What is wrong with the UESP? That's like saying you shouldn't use Wikipedia.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:07 pm

Imagine that you are an omnipotent being that does not know it exists.
Imagine you have fragmented yourself into many things smaller than yourself, in order to better understand yourself, all the while not knowing you exist.

Now imagine you keep a notebook.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:41 am

What is wrong with the UESP? That's like saying you shouldn't use Wikipedia.

The UESP tends to get a lot of the summeries wrong. A lot of the time, it's someones opinion. Another half of the time they get an in-universe perspective as fact. They are (or at least used to be) pages that insist the Tribunal and Dagoth Ur turned evil because the Heart of Lorkhan was "evil."
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:09 am

The UESP tends to get a lot of the summeries wrong. A lot of the time, it's someones opinion. Another half of the time they get an in-universe perspective as fact. They are (or at least used to be) pages that insist the Tribunal and Dagoth Ur turned evil because the Heart of Lorkhan was "evil."

Personally, for me, what is wrong with the UESP is that it is one or two persons their opinion.
It really is quite hard and you have to cite and argue quite vehemently to get anything changed.
Now, that is often not a bad thing.
However, I find that the regular 'anyone can participate' concept of a wiki does trump over things like the UESP when it comes to new things, simply because of this structure.
I also have, personally, a bit of trouble with things they declare as 'canon fact', while I argue there is no such thing in TES, meanwhile Im no editor there and things I, personally, find to be unsubstantiated or ambiguous stand there as 'canon fact'
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:15 am

Personally, for me, what is wrong with the UESP is that it is one or two persons their opinion.
It really is quite hard and you have to cite and argue quite vehemently to get anything changed.
Now, that is often not a bad thing.
However, I find that the regular 'anyone can participate' concept of a wiki does trump over things like the UESP when it comes to new things, simply because of this structure.
I also have, personally, a bit of trouble with things they declare as 'canon fact', while I argue there is no such thing in TES, meanwhile Im no editor there and things I, personally, find to be unsubstantiated or ambiguous stand there as 'canon fact'

I would say it depends on the subject. Some things are canon and can't really be argued with either way. However, some of the more abstract concepts, while considered canon, are kept intentionally vague in such a way that they invite debate. There is also the fact that people want facts about things which simply aren't a big part of the lore, and therefore haven't many details about them. The thing about the lore fanatic is that he wants to uncover and discuss the minutiae of the Elder Scrolls universe, even if there is only a single snippet of existing lore on that topic. Interpreting things is a huge part of the fun. :)
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:57 am

I would say it depends on the subject. Some things are canon and can't really be argued with either way. However, some of the more abstract concepts, while considered canon, are kept intentionally vague in such a way that they invite debate. There is also the fact that people want facts about things which simply aren't a big part of the lore, and therefore haven't many details about them.
Very few things in TES lore are unarguable, even from a layman's perspective. UESP's lore pages, unfortunately, present a lot of things as fact and often don't cite sources (which is odd since the sources are the in-game books, quest story lines, and character dialog, which is mostly right there on the site too; it just needs cross-referencing), or an article writer's interpretation of a source is presented as The Truth even if other interpretations are equally valid.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:52 am

(Conjecture)

I've always interpreted the scrolls to be Schematics for time itself. To our mortal minds they would appear as prophecies, Because that's how our limited Time-swimming brains can understand them. Now if you where to think like a being outside time what would the scrolls look like, Schematics. Designs for giving time structure and to keep it from unraveling from Entropy. In a way you sort of have to "Over clock" your mind to be able to see how the schematic-scroll relates to the universal machine. And you have to sort of be able to understand the nearest components of the machines or the Scrolls don't make sense.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:48 am

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I've always interpreted the scrolls to be Schematics for time itself. To our mortal minds they would appear as prophecies, Because that's how our limited Time-swimming brains can understand them. Now if you where to think like a being outside time what would the scrolls look like, Schematics. Designs for giving time structure and to keep it from unraveling from Entropy. In a way you sort of have to "Over clock" your mind to be able to see how the schematic-scroll relates to the universal machine. And you have to sort of be able to understand the nearest components of the machines or the Scrolls don't make sense.

Well Akatosh is time itself. So I don't know how your theory fits in with that.
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