Elder Scrolls a 40 Year old perspective...

Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:00 am

I'm 14 and I played TES since age 11, I started with Morrowind, then Oblivion and now I play Morrowind again because I just don't remember what happened in the game :). I enjoy it more than oblivion.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:21 am

I am 25 and I can remember playing pong.

But I agree the development in the computer game industry in the last 3 years, let alone the last 10, has been considerable. Every year I buy less and less games and its finally down to two: Skyrim and BF3.

Skyrim is going to be one of the those epic releases. Why?

- Its own unique game engine
- A game from a very strong and highly successful series
- Multi-platform
- Its own Lore

If you use these points as a criteria, you won't be surprised to see only the best games cut it.

For me Oblivion was close to being as immersive as a book. Playing it again last night, a fundamental flaw in the game was NPC interaction. To be frank I didn't care if they lived or died (most were rude, boring and very limited). For Skyrim I hope to see individuals with unique characteristics and personality's. Drawing you in an immersing you in this world. And interacting with you through NPC's. I want to see blood feuds and inter clan wars, where you take sides and care if you actually win or lose, opposed to watching the lowly mortals playing silly games with sticks and stones.


Oblivion had this beautiful world with depth, adventure and discovery.....except it was a dead land inhabited by ghosts.

Skyrim should be epic battles, exploration, discovery, adventure and not smacking your over excited allies in the back as they step in front of you during a battle...or at least caring if you did.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:53 am

Long gaming pedigree as well, 36 years old. Started with an atari bouncing square tennis balls across a screen. First computer was the Commodore 64 which i preferred to the 48K. Kung Fu Master, Pirates!, Silent Service and ofcourse my introduction to RPG's The Bard's Tale. Also a fan of the text RPG's set in Middle Earth. I gradually upgraded to PC and my love of gaming expanded to wargming as well as RPGing. Doom and Duke Nukem in the early 90's did their tour of duty on my HDD. Very much a fan of the TIE Fighter and X-Wing Sims. My love of RPG's was rekindled with SSI's DnD based games and then Bioware's Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale series! Morrowind was my first ES game and I bought the GotY edition with both expansion packs and I met the games I wanted to see. Deep, immersive and open world! Not Dnd but excellent! Neverwinter Nights and its Mods and user made scenarios took me back tol Faerun but I was back in Tamriel for Oblivion ( playing one summers day for 27 hours non stop)! Modded, there no better game out there! Now I await Skyrim with impatience. Upgrade my graphics card and I am thinking of crossfiring it with a twin!
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:01 am

Been a gamer for 20 years now, since Monkey Island I (1990), good times!

I agree with the OP 100%
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:37 am

81 and still playing video games.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:05 pm

43 here, always preferred roleplaying games after I picked up gaming again at university.
First game I played was pong at a friend as a small kid.
Had a C64, I actually managed to make a driving game on it :) I had a couple of good games and some huge pirated cassettes with hundreds of games, however the average quality was awful, some goods but I don’t think I ever bothered to browse through all of them. No 8 bit nostalgia here.
First elder scroll game for me was Daggerfall, start and middle of the 1990 was also then games became advanced enough to be real interesting.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:40 am

yah I remember my first game, it was on Attari, where u drive a plan that needs to refuel all the time and shots squares at stuff, it had 16 colors I think :D

it was awesome

I got my PC after I had a Sega rig, sonic was fun and all but I wanted to move to the age of technology, so my first PC game was C7 but I accidentally lost the short cut and never found it again :P, then wolfstine then I discovered the good stuff like dark colony, C&C gold, blood, shadow warrior as I upgraded my PC the games got better and better (90s) total annihilation, avp, diablo, birth of the federation, my first ES however was MW and I worshiped it for 2 years

now like you I'm very critical of games, maybe we should remember that all we had back then was a joystick with one button :P



You just gave me an idea for a quick side scroller game ! xD Dragon invaders! ftw
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:47 am

I remember playing Star trek on a Commodore PET, and AFO ( iirc ), in which you fired a balloon at some asterisks. And Zaria, yay! I also made an awful driving game on the C64 for my little brothers. I remember thinking, on first playing Ocarina of Time, this is it, graphics don't need to get any better. Had the same feeling with Oblivion. That attitude not only means I am possibly easy to please, but will always be proved pleasantly wrong. I will be getting Skyrim off the kids for my 45th birthday, and couldn't ask for more.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:49 am

52+ here......and the first computer game I played was 'Star Trek' on an IBM 360 mainframe through a truly dumb terminal (I think I still have the basic dump I finessed out of it late one afternoon somewhere.....). I saw the original Pong consoles (both booth and bar table) come out. Then came Pac Man and actual -color-! And about the same time, desktop PC's actually became viable, and a whole genre of games blossomed on those monochrome IBM toasters with no upgradeability (anyone remember Zork? The Bard's Tale?) Then color and the S-100 bus came to us all, and things changed.

Dragon's Lair was -so- much fun; particularly since all the original setups had the extra video heads, so you could watch and not crowd the player. And it was so much of a rush when you beat it the first time....usually to cheers from the audience who mostly didn't have a clue what the cues were.... Although my favorite was Space Ace. Not only did you have the 'can you beat it on one quarter' aspect, but with the action orchestral soundtrack, you had the added 'can I do it on one quarter, and hit the cues just right and keep the soundrtack going with no skips?' Yeah, a joystick twitchfest, but when you did it.....

THen came Ultima. And Doom. Might & Magic. Civ. Unreal. Ultima Underworld. Quake. TES. And so many others over the years.........

And the ride has only gotten more fun, for the most part.....
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:58 pm

This has gotten me thinking younknow how today's grandparents are very different to teenagers due to them leading very different lives and some older people find it hard to identify with teenagers. I was thinking when I'm a grandparent, since I've grown up on an age of huge technological adavances, do you think I'll be able to identify and understand younger people better because inwont fell as alienated by the technology?
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:58 pm

This has gotten me thinking younknow how today's grandparents are very different to teenagers due to them leading very different lives and some older people find it hard to identify with teenagers. I was thinking when I'm a grandparent, since I've grown up on an age of huge technological adavances, do you think I'll be able to identify and understand younger people better because inwont fell as alienated by the technology?

One thing is for certain, they will have new types of music that you hate. I can talk games and tech with my kids, and it's great, but their iTunes selections? Ne'er the twain shall meet.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:32 am

im a 17 year old gamer and i started of with a SEGA golden axe ftw! then i moved into pokemon cards :D then a nintendo 64 duke nukem 64 was awesome, mario carts 64 and a lovley game called glover.
actually has anyone here actually played glover?, as far i know im the person to have ever played it :(

oblivion was my first elder scrolls game i couldnt get into morrowind the combat roll dice thing really annoyed me lol plus i was obsessed with fable:tlc [flameshield]
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:56 am

One thing is for certain, they will have new types of music that you hate. I can talk games and tech with my kids, and it's great, but their iTunes selections? Ne'er the twain shall meet.

Haha tbh I dislike a lot of today's music especially all this dubstep and DnB crap, but there still some very good music being made out there today you've just got to search harder to find it. I feel completely different to my sister even though she's only a bout Five years younger, she's never heard of Dylan or gill Scott heron or even listened to nirvana, I'm going to have to eduacate her at some point
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:11 am

Haha tbh I dislike a lot of today's music especially all this dubstep and DnB crap, but there still some very good music being made out there today you've just got to search harder to find it. I feel completely different to my sister even though she's only a bout Five years younger, she's never heard of Dylan or gill Scott heron or even listened to nirvana, I'm going to have to eduacate her at some point

Everyone should be educated with TES and Gil Scott Heron. Skyrim : the revolution will be televised.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:28 am

My first video game was Pac Man for the Atari 2600.

Having just turned 40 back in January I'm also very critical of video games, TES specifically. Having played Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion I have certain expectations of Skyrim. However, those expectations won't come close to being met, based on what I've seen so far. That is extremely dissapointing.

I miss the old days of exploring and having to actually look at a map to find out where you are going. I miss the days of adventure games, although L.A. Noire is the closest thing we have right now and is my favorite game of 2011 so far.

It seems the days of actually having to think are gone and have been replaced by instant gratification and having to have joystick skills to complete a game. :sad:
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:01 am

Seniors play videogames too.

http://www.geeksugar.com/Senior-Gaming-Rise-2426823

It's more than likely there are seniors here who play TES and are waiting for Skyrim. People don't usually give up something they love just because their hair is turning gray. They'll play their whole lives. Tech is everywhere and senior centers have classes about technology because of phones (which have games in them), computers (online shopping and everything else) and all the other tech people deal with every day. There are also seniors who learned tech because their jobs changed as computer usage grew over the years...and they aren't afraid of tech.

Pong was released 39 years ago in 1972 and if you played it when you were 25 or 30, maybe with your kids (and maybe not!) and you love gaming, you would be in your 60s now and still playing. The games have changed but people have always loved games...whether it's cards, board games or videogames.

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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:53 pm

I'm another 50 year old. First gaming experience was a pong clone on some sort of console. Wwhen I started going to pubs (I'm in the UK) Space Invaders machines had appeared, followed by table top pac man and Galaxian. then I lost interest until I saw someone playing Goldeneye on an N64. I rushed out and bought one. Got Zelda Ocarina of Time and loved it. Bought a PS2 when it came out but gradually lost interest. I enjoyed GTA 3 and San Andreas, also Ico. Then lost interest again until I acquired a PC with a decent graphics card in 2007. Looking round for a game to play I acquired Oblivion, and have been playing it ever since.

In over 30 years of (on and off) gaming I can honestly say that Skyrim is the only game I've ever looked forward to.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:47 am

My first game was conan on my old apple IIc, it was fun throwing boomerangs at enemies.
I started to love the fantasy world after reading conan and the dragonlance series, from that moment i became addicted it was back at the late 80's early 90's
I am 41 years old and i love video games, some of them feels like reading a good book. my first tes was Oblivion, i missed all the previews games because i wasn't really into RPG, my favorite games at the time ware real time RTS, i played warcraft 1,2,3 starcraft and more.
A friend lent me neverwinters nights 2 and oblivion from that moment i formed a new type of addiction, purchased oblivion but couldn't find any other tes in my country.

I'm waiting for skyrim and i'm sure it will be a wonderful game.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:12 pm

Everyone should be educated with TES and Gil Scott Heron. Skyrim : the revolution will be televised.

:D nah the revolution will probably be live streamed by some kid on justin.tv
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:59 am

i'm 42 and started with pong. i also spent a lot of time on the atari 2600, commodore vic 20 and 64. from about the late 80's to mid 90's i didn't play much of any game or console. after getting back into gaming with the playstation (got hooked on the kings field series), i've become more addicted to it. the big difference for me now, as opposed to when i was a kid, is the anger generated by games. i remember swinging that stick and button controller by its wire, smashing it to pieces, then glue and taping it back together. now, i can't believe i acted in such a manner. on another note: does anyone remember using a modem with a commodore to dial into a billboard in the mid 80's?
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:03 pm

My first video game was Pac Man for the Atari 2600.




HA...I remember this one time I was playing Pacman... and one of my dads older friends came over. He was like 50 at the time. We were close so a little "I can kick your butt in any video game" was started by yours truly. Well he beat me 3 ties in a row. I could not figure how this old dude beat me. Then a week ago one of my good friends brought his son over who then began sputing off that he can whoop me in MLB (I had never played it before). I beat him by 2 runs... It must be an initianton right or somthing...

Come to find out that old man had bought an Atari because he bout the Atari for his kids, but played it more than them...

Maybe this is off a bit...and correct me if I am wrong...but my folks bought me and Atari when it first came out, but I do not remember the 2600 lable being onteh box until a few years later...I think my was just "Atari" Any help on this history?
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HA...I remember this one time I was playing Pacman... and one of my dads older friends came over. He was like 50 at the time. We were close so a little "I can kick your butt in any video game" was started by yours truly. Well he beat me 3 ties in a row. I could not figure how this old dude beat me. Then a week ago one of my good friends brought his son over who then began sputing off that he can whoop me in MLB (I had never played it before). I beat him by 2 runs... It must be an initianton right or somthing...

Come to find out that old man had bought an Atari because he bout the Atari for his kids, but played it more than them...

Maybe this is off a bit...and correct me if I am wrong...but my folks bought me and Atari when it first came out, but I do not remember the 2600 lable being onteh box until a few years later...I think my was just "Atari" Any help on this history?


i think it was called atari vcs (video console system, or something like that).
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:33 pm

This has gotten me thinking younknow how today's grandparents are very different to teenagers due to them leading very different lives and some older people find it hard to identify with teenagers. I was thinking when I'm a grandparent, since I've grown up on an age of huge technological adavances, do you think I'll be able to identify and understand younger people better because inwont fell as alienated by the technology?


I think it will depend on you, and also depend on where pop culture is in your future. There's a big mix out there when it comes to ages and cultures. Maybe in the future the kids will adopt a counter-tech movement, who knows.
A lot of people stop watching tv after a while, feeling their time is better spent on other activities. That right there will create a separation of culture when children are quoting their favorite shows, for example.

It's not something I worry about too much, though. That is, I remind myself that back when I was little I didn't like a lot of what was popular at the time. When hair metal was popular, I liked new wave. When grunge was popular, I liked shoegaze. Now it's Lady Gaga & various "Bear" bands (Grizzly Bear, Polar Bear, etc etc), but I'm listening to Small Black, Cults, Raveonettes, Maps, etc. (Chad Valley's new album is going through the headphones while I'm typing this.) I like being open to new things, but not afraid to be who I am while doing it.
Also, it can be considered healthy to embrace one's full life, both past and present (& "future".. I like the notion of trying to "borrow" from one's future maturity when making important decisions.) If someone younger than I does not understand a reference I might make from before their time, it can be tempting to feel embarrassed by that but I remind myself it's perfectly fine. It's something I've lived through, just as what is contemporary now is something I am living through.
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Post » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:34 pm

I spent a LOT of time playing around with it, in spite of it crashing on me far too often. I ran it on the C=128.

I even went through the effort recently to set up a commodore emulator specifically so I could play through the Rivers of Light adventure again. :thumbsup:



And hey, ACS has influenced the Elderscrolls. Here's a quote from http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Articles.Detail&id=51 on Planet Elderscrolls:


"
PES: Who came up with the idea of including the TES CS with Morrowind? And how did the CS affect the decisions made when creating Oblivion? Also, talking of the CS, will modders ever see the updated version of this?

TH: That would be me. When we started Morrowind, I was really excited about making a tool like “Stuart Smith's Adventure Construction Set for the Apple 2”. I even used part of the name. As far as an updated one, we should have one out around Shivering Isles' release that supports the new content from it, but nothing more then that.
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Post » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:32 am

Its amazing how far games have gone. I think Bethesda and Rockstar both continue to push the limits of the open-world genre.
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