Elemental Fury

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:22 pm

The shout doesn't "ignore" the dual-enchantment perk. The perk only gives you the ability to enchant 2 effects at the same time, not the ability to have 2 effects on any item. The best way to see this is the fact that you cannot give a second effect to an item with 1 enchant on it through the enchanting table. The only thing you can do is take a non-enchanted item and give it 2 effects at the same time.

Now as for enchanted weapons and the shout, I think it was intended that only non-enchanted weapons gain the speed boost.

Plus theres the fact that the cooldown is incredibly short meaning that you can use elemental fury almost every single fight.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:37 pm

They don't want you to be smashing through with godlike enchants on godlike attack speeds? :spotted owl: although this seems unlikely given the godlike crafting skills.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:30 pm

Not a constructive answer in every definition of the word. It's like saying because smithing + enchanting + alchemy is already incredibly overpowered surely we don't need sneaking or any form of magic.


It's like saying; because you quit school you get to drive a taxi. It′s like saying, this strawman i am gonna beat up and then I have won over you.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:00 am

"useless" Oh good lord no. Get grace, find 2h weap then proceed to [censored] bricks.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:09 pm

The shout doesn't "ignore" the dual-enchantment perk. The perk only gives you the ability to enchant 2 effects at the same time, not the ability to have 2 effects on any item. The best way to see this is the fact that you cannot give a second effect to an item with 1 enchant on it through the enchanting table. The only thing you can do is take a non-enchanted item and give it 2 effects at the same time.

You're right, but there's no need to complicate things. Either way, the perk has no influence in it whatsoever.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:56 pm

Why, yes. Every post that's not about boot-licking Bethesda is clearly a complaint. The game has clearly no flaws and it's working all as intended.

Addressing the flaws in an open forum, which anyone has access to, is nothing but fanning the flames of hatred towards the company. No, that doesn't mean we have to turn every single topic into blind praise and ignore all the problems. All I'm saying is that you won't get the kind of support you're looking for in here, as developers hardly look at their own forums. The real issue resides in the lack of communication Bethesda has with the player base, which unfortunately we can't do much about. We can make a compilation of all the bugs and problems, but I can guarantee you they will hardly look at it. Why is that, you ask? Because no human being likes being pointed out of their mistakes, especially when it's something about they've dedicated so much time into.

The game has problems, without a doubt, but I honestly don't think pointing them out in here will attract the kind of audience you're looking for. Like I said in my previous post, you'll have to resort to the mod community to play the game as you want; fixing those details that make the difference between a polished and a rushed product. Unfortunately, console players will have to wait for a late patch to repair the damage that has already affected several people; mainly those with frame rate issues and corrupting the files.

Like I said, you've seen so many complaints you can't differentiate between asking for help and pure complaining.

Oh, I did complain, I won't refute that fact. But the overall intent is NOT, in fact, to ask Bethesda to "fix" this "problem". I'm asking the community: "is there any way for me to get past this design and use it as I want to? Because I sure don't like it"

"There you go!" I can hear you say "You said for yourself you don't like the design! You're complaining!"

And that is as far as I do: I stated that I don't like it, but it does not mean in any way that I wish to change it


The shout doesn't "ignore" the dual-enchantment perk. The perk only gives you the ability to enchant 2 effects at the same time, not the ability to have 2 effects on any item. The best way to see this is the fact that you cannot give a second effect to an item with 1 enchant on it through the enchanting table. The only thing you can do is take a non-enchanted item and give it 2 effects at the same time.

Now as for enchanted weapons and the shout, I think it was intended that only non-enchanted weapons gain the speed boost.

Plus theres the fact that the cooldown is incredibly short meaning that you can use elemental fury almost every single fight.

Yes, I learned it the hard way today. I got my enchanting to 100 and I find my armors are not ready for enchanting

It's like saying; because you quit school you get to drive a taxi. It′s like saying, this strawman i am gonna beat up and then I have won over you.

Yes, it's like saying: "Trolls will never contribute to the question at hand"
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:27 pm

"There you go!" I can hear you say "You said for yourself you don't like the design! You're complaining!"

Hence the sarcasm of my first sentence. It's your topic description the thing that caught my attention, that's all.
But you're right in one point. There are too many complaints in here, which can color one's perception for the worse.
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