Elf in trailer?

Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:50 am

when i saw that scene i said female high elf and still thinking same also looks like something on her lap book or something else
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Juan Cerda
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:07 pm

More likely, for the purposes of getting an attractive shot for the trailer, crime detection AI had been turned off for the duration of recording.

Probably this.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:05 pm

Well, I hope they do go to a more "alien" approach with the elves again, away from oblivions more human elves with pointed ears, but IMO, that is an Orc. Which is still an elf, but I expect they would have harder facial features, like this one.

Its to green to be an Altmer I think.


Not really sure how that could possibly be an Orc.

There's no colour to the skin...at least not orcish colour, and I doubt the lighting would bleach an orc's skin that white. Besides the build just seems too slender and tall and her demeanour too haughty and smug. Where's the pug snout or the wide and toothy mouth? IMO there's no doubt that that's an Altmer, but to be friendly and as a courtesy to Chimer's seemingly poor eyesight :wink: , I will say that there's a 1% chance that she is an orc.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:28 pm

I think Bosmer are a lost cause, honestly. After how they've been portrayed in the past games, I don't think I'll be able to take them seriously no matter what Bethesda does with them. It's one of those things that just can't be unseen at this point.
http://img820.imageshack.us/i/59282261.jpg/
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:41 pm

I think the elf just hasn't seen the knife behind the victim's back yet. Not too surprising if she was reading by the fire. The victim's body would block her view of the weapon, and her mind is on something else, anyway.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:46 pm

The seated woman is a Dunmer for sure.
I'm thinking the dude with the lute is Altmer, though I can see how his build looks Orcish.
Also in that scene (not in the picture) there appears to be an argonian woman at the bar. If you go back and watch the trailer, just before the PC stands up to cut the person's throat, you'll see her on the right side of the screen. I'm claiming this is an argonian because it looks like she has a snout, but I could be wrong....
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:27 pm

I opened up the hi-res version of the trailer and got some better screenshots of the elf. I can almost conclusively say it's an elf, and there's pretty much no doubt to me it's an altmer.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/TiiR27/skyrim_elf.jpg

The seated woman is a Dunmer for sure.
I'm thinking the dude with the lute is Altmer, though I can see how his build looks Orcish.

The dude with the lute is human for sure. Well, 99% sure.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:09 am

Isn't that pretty much what elves are? If we want to avoid humans with funny ears and skin colors,


Their facial structure should be different in my opinion. It looks like it's going to be, so I'm a happy bunny.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:55 pm

Personally, I'm sure that that is an Altmer. Plus if you figure how tall she is by how she's sitting, she'd be as tall as the man behind her when she stood up. I'm pretty sure that he is a Nord (plus look at his face, looks Nordish to me).
I'm 100% sure on both.

'Least, its clear to myself. By the way Bethesda, go ahead and dispute me. You know. By giving us more screenshots of the races! :wink_smile:
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:08 pm

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/02/Skryim-Trailer-anolysis-12-Lute-Kill.jpg

Anyone else notice this? Don't know if a thread's already been posted but I didn't see it. Anyway, this seems to be our first look at one of the elf-races, and I think she looks great! A bit more of a return to how they looked in morrowind, it looks like.

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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/TiiR27/skyrim_elf.jpg


I took a larger picture of the same scene, check out the Bartender http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk70/Zanzaman/Dunnmer.jpg sorry for the smallness of the pic, if you zoom your browser it's much easier to see.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:13 pm

I took a larger picture of the same scene, check out the Bartender http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk70/Zanzaman/Dunnmer.jpg

The bartender to me looks like a poorly-lit human of some sort. It's really hard to tell given the quality/lighting and the blur involved with the moving camera.

I look forward to seeing some clear pictures of all of these races. Right now it seems like we're hunting for bigfoot. Still exciting to speculate though.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:53 pm

Not really sure how that could possibly be an Orc.

There's no colour to the skin...at least not orcish colour, and I doubt the lighting would bleach an orc's skin that white. Besides the build just seems too slender and tall and her demeanour too haughty and smug. Where's the pug snout or the wide and toothy mouth? IMO there's no doubt that that's an Altmer, but to be friendly and as a courtesy to Chimer's seemingly poor eyesight :wink: , I will say that there's a 1% chance that she is an orc.


Her skin IS shifted slight to a green hue, that is clear. Also, while her neck and head are "slender" her body looks like it could be fairly wide. What I am suggesting, is that for the female orcs, they've taken a more feminine approach. I'm not saying its definitely an orc, I just think its possible. Its also highly possible its a Dunmer, maybe an Altmer, especially since we don't know what any of them look like yet. If they want to take totally different directions on them, that is their prerogative. Even if this isn't an Orc.. I expect that this time around Orcs will possess a slightly more attractive, while still bestial appearance, not unlike this character.

BTW, my eyesight is just fine. :)
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:52 am

Her skin IS shifted slight to a green hue, that is clear. Also, while her neck and head are "slender" her body looks like it could be fairly wide. What I am suggesting, is that for the female orcs, they've taken a more feminine approach. I'm not saying its definitely an orc, I just think its possible. Its also highly possible its a Dunmer, maybe an Altmer, especially since we don't know what any of them look like yet. If they want to take totally different directions on them, that is their prerogative. Even if this isn't an Orc.. I expect that this time around Orcs will possess a slightly more attractive, while still bestial appearance, not unlike this character.

BTW, my eyesight is just fine. :)

Look at the nose and mouth though. Completely humanoid by the looks of it. That doesn't seem befitting of an orc at all. Plus, given the more brutal nature of this game compared to it's predecessors, I'd say making the orcs more attractive would probably be the opposite direction of what they're taking.


Also, I'm kind of shocked people are saying it's a dunmer. Do you guys think the dude with the lute is a redguard? Because I would never imagine a Dunmer with such light skin.

If it's not an altmer I'd say it could be a wood elf as well.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:14 pm

When I first saw it I thought it was a high elf.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:23 pm

I was watching the video and I come across what I think might be a dark elf
@ around 1:22
he the guy closest the wind mill, can somebody help me confirm this
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:01 am

Look at the nose and mouth though. Completely humanoid by the looks of it. That doesn't seem befitting of an orc at all. Plus, given the more brutal nature of this game compared to it's predecessors, I'd say making the orcs more attractive would probably be the opposite direction of what they're taking.


Also, I'm kind of shocked people are saying it's a dunmer. Do you guys think the dude with the lute is a redguard? Because I would never imagine a Dunmer with such light skin.

If it's not an altmer I'd say it could be a wood elf as well.


I can hardly see what the nose looks like, definitely not well enough to say if its humanoid or not. I agree, more attractive would seem counter to the overall direction, but they've obviously worked hard on letting players create attractive characters this time around(evident by every other NPC we've seen in the game) so I don't see why they would force Orc players to be completely hideous in comparison. I'm sure every race will be able to have attractive characters, within limits.

Dunmer have had skin this light before, even lighter sometimes, so I don't think that argument holds at all.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:54 am

I was watching the video and I come across what I think might be a dark elf
@ around 1:22
he the guy closest the wind mill, can somebody help me confirm this


It's really to small and fast to tell either way. What I have noticed though, is the guard walking towards us in that scene and in the other little village scene, looks like Imperial Legion, or at least armor based on the Roman Legions.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:24 pm

True, it could be an orc. But, they said they were really playing up the differences between the races, and this slender body type is something I associate with high-elves. I think an orc would be much too burly.



I believe there are differing bodytypes now. It could be anything, if so. But facially, I'd say orc. Also the greenish tint. Either way, I'm glad the mer look like mer. I hope it's similar for beast races. I don't want a scaley human this time. They were so different from humans in Morrowind. In Oblivion, they looked, walked, and carried themselves like humans with fur or scales.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:36 am

I thought that was weird too.
Only explanation I see is that the AI is worse than I thought, or that everyone in the tavern was part of it.


I actually got the impression that she flinched at the moment when he slit the guys throat. But the video cuts away too fast so she could had reacted more so afterwards.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:33 am

I believe there are differing bodytypes now. It could be anything, if so. But facially, I'd say orc. Also the greenish tint. Either way, I'm glad the mer look like mer. I hope it's similar for beast races. I don't want a scaley human this time. They were so different from humans in Morrowind. In Oblivion, they looked, walked, and carried themselves like humans with fur or scales.



Beast races were different in Morrowind. But that's the only game in which they were different. Arena, Daggerfall, and Oblivion all had very human-like beastfolk. So it stands to reason that they're supposed to be human-like, and that Morrowind messed them up.

Personally, I don't care if they're more animal-like ala Morrowind, but I feel they fall into the same category as spears/crossbows/throwing weapons/etc. more animations that take away from "important things."
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:59 pm

The only way to view the elf is animated

1. Low resolution
2. No anti-aliasing = distortion
3. Behind fireplace = more distortion
4. Compression = even more distortion

So I've made a video to make it easier for you to decide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvyYT2pPoME

Enjoy!
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:18 pm

Her skin IS shifted slight to a green hue, that is clear. Also, while her neck and head are "slender" her body looks like it could be fairly wide. What I am suggesting, is that for the female orcs, they've taken a more feminine approach. I'm not saying its definitely an orc, I just think its possible. Its also highly possible its a Dunmer, maybe an Altmer, especially since we don't know what any of them look like yet. If they want to take totally different directions on them, that is their prerogative. Even if this isn't an Orc.. I expect that this time around Orcs will possess a slightly more attractive, while still bestial appearance, not unlike this character.

BTW, my eyesight is just fine. :)


Well first let me say I'm glad to hear your eyes are doing better. :stare: Secondly, yes I saw the very, very, very slight tinge of a hint of a trace of a green hue on the Altmer's skin, but its not enough to make me think she's an Orc.

Your strange obsession with the female Orc figure and appearance worries me though...no just kidding :laugh: , but there is a reason why Orcs are ugly, their God Trinimac went through the intestinal tract of Boethiah, and in essence all those who worshipped Trinimac were transformed as he was when he became Malacath. So despite Beth trying to make the characters in the game more attractive, I don't think that would necessarily apply to the Orcs as I would imagine that running through the digestive juices, acidic sludge and fecal matter of a Daedric Prince's bowels is enough to turn anyone ugly, even if it was only experienced through some divine faith and magickal connection to their God.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:33 pm

i'm glad see variations of different faces and attractive npcs. I always picture elfs to be good looking and oblivion most of them look scary.


I don't know. There isn't any real in-setting indication we get that elves, in general, are considered good-looking by humans. I'd really like it if that was the way elves looked, because it'd emphasize that they're different from humans if they gave them a more alien appearance.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:29 pm

I don't know. There isn't any real in-setting indication we get that elves, in general, are considered good-looking by humans. I'd really like it if that was the way elves looked, because it'd emphasize that they're different from humans if they gave them a more alien appearance.


Try telling that to a Breton. :confused:
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:48 pm

No actually, you couldn't. God, it's become practically a meme to bash the gamebryo, meanwhile most people doing so seem to have no idea what an engine actually does.

I never blame the engine but I would be happy if you could give a detailed description of what a Game Engine does, do you think you can PM me?

Also it is definitely an Altmer.
You can easily tell. Gold Skin, tall, high ears, and slim face.
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