The only instances of Ayleid items in Oblivion I can think of are the crowns in the Collector quest line, and the weapons "Ancient Ayleid Mace" and "Ancient Ayleid Sword" that you can interact with after defeating these: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Ayleid_Guardian in the Thieve's Guild final quest. They're scripted to disappear with the message "such and such crumbles to dust as you pick it up", or something like that.

The Ayleid helm from the mage's guild quest.

Also, I'll go on to say, for all we know the armor that we were talking about is glass armor for all we know. Who knows, but I'm going to say Dwemer, you guys can say whatever you think, but I'm going with Dwemer.



Technically it's right because the Ayleids, Chimer and so on all were originally on Summerset Isle before they went to the mainland of Tamriel.

Fair enough. It could be glass, it *could* be dwemer, it could be hardened hist sap; it could be literally anything.
Stick with your convictions, if that's what you like.

That reminds me... in the magazine, there was an images of a man wearing an Elven Armor (page with "The one they fear" in big letters, where they explain you what a dragonborn is), and he had a mace that looked made of glass that would fit this armor... just a thought.

Yeah, the base-yellow/green-inlay coloring and slick style seem identical to this armor. It's seen clearly on page 58, for those who want to look.

I always though the Mithril armour in Oblivion was more LOTR influenced than the elven armour itself due to the leaflike patterns and whatnot.

Also it seems to be more Ayleidic than Altmeri due to the fact that the Aurorans and Umaril all wielded elven style weapons in KotN

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7489/screenshot20110127at111.jpg

Its not shading, there are actually green areas to the armor. If it was shading as you say, it would be present in all the shaded areas of the character. No, this green is meant to either show a different material or show this painted/decal aspect of armor they were talking about. However looking at it, those areas appear to have a different lighting to them, which makes them look like crystal, or perhaps glass. If I had to guess I think this could be Glass armor.

To me the top one looks ayleid it reminds me off the ayleid statues you could collect in OB
The second looks more like normal even but with a scale pattern instead of strate plates. They are also male female pictures maybe some of the differences they exsplored when thinking out armour six morphing. As it's all concept work not game renders you can never be sure how much is flare and how much is substance. Personnaly I really like the elven looking scale armour.

Certainly. Mithril wasn't even mentioned in Morrowind (thought I vaguely recall it in Daggerfall), that's definitely one area where the LotR influence was very apparent.

As for the Aurorans' weapons... While that's suggestive, ultimately in this sort of discussion such things come down to "gameplay=|=lore". It's quite possible that the representation of Auroran weapons in-game is only identical to the elven weapons for developer convenience; and not because it is reflective of any deeper lore truth.



Good work! If it is glass, it's a much more conservative take on the style than we've seen so far. Which would make sense; the most recent video did say they were going for a "low-fantasy" aesthetic.
I'm still leaning towards a totally new armor style, though.

How can you say that http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6117/art6t.png is not gold.

Also, after reviewing my GI mag, I believe this armor is probably glass. I think BGS has decided armor made completely of glass didn't off that much protection, so now they add glass trim golden armor, at least it seems to fit the look of the glass mace in the GI mag.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did it out of convenience; just like the "Tsaesci" in Pale Pass... <_<

That is distinctly green. If it had any green hue to it as a result of the camera quality, EVERYTHING would have a green tint. The white paper would appear green too if that were the case, which it is quite clearly not.

Furthermore, that armor isn't even remotely close to Dwemer style. It looks more like a form of elven to me, judging by the elegant design.

Are you sure that the skeletons in the Pale Pass where suppossed to be Tsaesci? I think they were Akaviri humans.

Akaviri humans were eaten by the Tsaesci... And I'm talking about Commander Mishaxhi.

Dwemer are elves....

Also, once again, I'll reiterate, when someone says "I guess" or "I bet" that means they aren't saying something as fact. I said "I guess the shading had a green hue because of the camera", I would appreciate it if people would stop being so decisive at saying how I'm wrong and keep reiterating it. Cool, someone already showed the green in their photoshop and I already said awhile ago that I had come around to seeing that, I'm not sure what more I have to do when I never said it as fact.... As for saying it was gold, it is gold, he said that the armor was 100% green when it is only trimmed with green and the rest is gold. I will go ahead and say that it is in FACT gold.

Could've sworn they were dwarves
Let me rephrase, it looks more ayleid

I know they were "eaten" (although it's not clear what this exactly means), but when? They could had been "eaten" after the Akaviri invasion in Tamriel. I think that commander Mishaxhi was supposed to be an Akaviri soldier of the Akaviri human army that invaded Tamriel. I don't remember to have read that the invaders were suppossed to be Tsaesci.

EDIT: I have been exploring the Lore and it seems that the invaders were actually Tsaesci, so you are right.

Well the elven armor being shown as Elven seems to fit more into the Ayleid niche, from the look of what looks like glass trim, they started to make glass armor where it's not actually all glass. Now it seems like it's a unique armor set with glass trimming. Looks pretty sweet, definitely better than the glass armor in Oblivion and Morrowind *shudder*



They were Tsaesci that were invading. We don't know if the humans at pale pass were just Beth's attempt of not having to make Tsaesci models or if they may have been human slaves and they made up the forefront of the Tsaesci army. But the Tsaesci definitely invaded Tamriel, especially since one of them became Potentate of the empire and ruled for centuries before finally being assassinated by the Morag Tong.

Oh, come on,. You know what he means.

There's a distinct schism between the cultures derived from the Summerset Isle Aldmer, and the Dwemer; who were allegedly on Tamriel before the Aldmer arrived.
They're both "elves" only in a technical and semantic sense.
It's obvious that when someone says "elven", they mean "Aldmeri".
Frankly? you're being annoying.

Even if the Tsaesci didn't wipe out the humans they wouldn't allow one into their ranks as a commander of an invading force, Mishaxhi was a Tsaesci and the most obvious explanation is that they just reused an imperial model (They've done this several times already in Oblivion) instead of ruining the lore.

And yes, the invasion was by the Tsaesci because their defeat at Pale Pass by Reman I forced the Tsaesci to serve the Empire and eventually two Tsaesci ruled the Empire, the Potentate Versidue-Shaie and his son.

Actually, the Aldmer were the first beings. Also, there are even more distinctions between the armor styles of the elves than just "Elven".

Yes, I have just read it. Next time I will inform myself before talking... :facepalm:

Come to think of it... I'm angry they just smacked the "elven" label on the armor now
How many versions of elves are in The Elder Scrolls lore? There are, in fact, three playable races that are elves. Then there are dwemer, alyeid, falmer, etc.
>_> Why are they going with the generic mainstream "elven" label??

:icecream: Have an ice-cream. :thumbsup:

Actually, Orcs are mer as well, so 4 playable races.