Because Ayleids are the superior race :tongue:



Yes, your right, they are. But also, you have to remember the Bretons, so that makes 4 and a half elven races :celebration:

However, the Orcs and Dunmer are cursed, so they are disgraces to the mer!

Oh, that's something I didn't know about the Orcs


That's why they're all dead and boring, right? Unlike the Dwemer, who are all dead but one and at least mysterious and intriguing

...And bloated with Corprus... Poor Yagrum..

"Elven" armor could be the armor of any of the elven races... It should be named after the race that invented it/used it fist..

btw, why is the man on the Elven armor picture showing the finger?

Pfft, the Ayleids aren't dead. Most of the Ayleids assimilated into the other elven races but there are still small populations of Alyeids that live in the Heartland wood. It's easy to hide in Cyrodiil since most of it is uninhabited and it also helps that the Ayleids can shapeshift, the only known race other than the dragons known to be able to do so bwahahaha.

I'm sorry that the slave races that outnumbered the Ayleids like 10:1 had to cheat by getting help from a god, demi-god and Skyrim to defeat the Ayleids. Akatosh cutting off the endless source of undead and daedra from Oblivion kind've hurt the Ayleids not to mention that the Shezzarine with all the weapons and armor of the 8 divines killed many Ayleid Sorcerer-kings before he was finally killed by the Ayleids. So pretty much, the slave races used cheat codes to call gods to their side to block off their main forces from Oblivion and being outnumbered 1000:1 isn't very good odds, but the Ayleids fought to the end. Even after they lost, there were plenty of Ayleids and they kept in rule for centuries until they were finally ran out of Cyrodiil. *shakes fist at Akatosh* He screwed us!!!

The orcs used to be known as Orsimer (the Pariah Folk). They were a race of Mer very skilled in close combat. They became what they are now when Boethiah destroyed their patron god, Trinimac, who transformed in Malacath, and his race, the Orsimer, in orcs. They have a pretty cool history.

Looks like Glass armour to me...

They ARE known as the Orsimer. They used to Aldmer that got pwned by Boethiah.

Oh, you are right. Well, anyway, the name Orsimer evidence their elven heritage.

this was the point of my OP.

its as if Beth aren't sure which elf archetype theyre going with, Tolkiens or their own.

the elven armour in oblivion was straight outta the LOTR movies. Not from their own established elven lore. (not to mention dagons realm being a copy/paste of Mordor)

teh elven armor looks like dark seducer armor, it has a shell look to it

All 'tall elf' lore across all media is inspired by Tolkien. Elven armor in OB was definitely influenced by LOTR movies and I have no problem with that. What does elven armor look like in ES lore? Example?

Dagon's realm looks more like the Quake games to me but I get the idea.

Its easily a glass armor. Even though the glass armor in the game is hardened with volcanic ash from the Island of Vvanderfell, it still wouldn't be the easiest to wear, design, or be protective. Each region can have the same type of basic armor, but variations of it. In China or Japan, there are different clans that use "Samurai" armor, but they each have a distinctive look. There are Elves in the province of Skyrim, but due to a different setting, they have a different culture than the Aeylids to the south.

EDIT: The Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orsimer, Dwemer, Chimer (Original Dunmer who were the real founders of bonemold/chitin), Aeylid, Falmer, ect. ect. all came from different area's with different resources and skills. They all have a certain different armor types while being elves. An Altmer who is versed in magic isn't going to farewell in Orsimer armor, who are versed well in melee combat.

So, the slave races that were outnumbered by the infinite hordes of summoned Daedra something like 10:1 had to "cheat" to change the odds to the other way around? Since when is preventing yourself from being massively outnumbered considered "cheating"?

As for the armor, what's to stop Bethesda from having Light, Medium, and Heavy "elven" armor? The Altmer still make armor, and it was mentioned in Morrowind about various armors of Summerset Isle (Glass) and Orc manufacture, so there's no need for it to be Ayleid. Of course, it could be, but I'd be very annoyed at having ancient relics floating around in consumer quantities again, the way that bandits with Daedric or Glass armor were in OB. The likelihood of the Bosmer creating something that "unnatural" is somewhere between low and non-existent. The Falmer wouldn't be considered "legendary" if their armor was in common use, they'd be a "known" ancient but extinct (or near-extinct) race, like the Dwemer. It's not very "Orc" looking, and doesn't match any of the bulky "semi-techno" equipment we've seen from the Dwemer. That leaves the Altmer and Dunmer. Unless it's a new Bonemold design out of Morrowind (which I'd highly doubt), I'd have to put my bets on it either being "Glass" or some new Altmer type we haven't yet seen.

The only evidence for a "style" in elven armor I can see, something unique to TES, would be from some of the armor in Morrowind. Ordinator Armor, Gah Julan Bonemold and regular Bonemold all have pronounced pauldrons. The elven in Oblivion also has them. I would consider those armors from Morrowind a form of elven because they are Dunmer. They seem to have abandoned that for the elven from Skyrim though.

Add: At least the duck boots are gone.

Elven or Ayleid that armour looks pretty slick IMO.

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Does anyone really think BGS is concerned with the backstory on their armor designs?

I think people are missing the bigger issue here. To me the http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6117/art6t.png looks like the female variant of the Elf armour. Which could mean that all armour types could be gender specific! So if you're playing a male Nord, don't try looting the corpse of a female elf for her armour, cos you won't be able to squeeze into it!

IMHO this ain't 'glass' armour. Look at the rear view, you can clearly see the composite nature of the greaves and arm pieces, which look like chainmail / mithril. Surely glass armour wouldn't be compromised in this way?

Backstory is very important. BGS could throw out a depleted uranium mega V.A.T.S Dwemer suit of armor with hydraulic boots which allow you to jump a million feet in the air and have heat seeking missiles shoot out of the helmet, but it wouldn't be right. Armor should reflect the environment and the society around it.

In the magazine, you can see a man with whick seems to be a glass mace, and it really fits with that. I am pretty sure that's glass.

Pure glass would be so rigid it wouldn't work for light armor. Sure it doesn't weigh a lot, but the bulkiness of it would negate all light armor effects. There would have to be some sort of binding holding the glass plates together. But then again, glass armor is more ceremonial than actual battle armor.

I disagree a little. I think it just needs to look 'plausable' and consistant with the art direction. I don't expect an ingame book explaining the origins of all the assets used in the game.

Maybe what we're seeing is two different forms of elven, one heavy or medium, one light. http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l584/Rivendell139/halberdskyrim.jpg one, light, could still be elven, but have elements of glass in it. The http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l584/Rivendell139/Elven.jpg one, heavy or medium.

You are entitled to your own opinion, as am I. While a book explaining the armor would be over the top, just looking at the different races, their environment, their societal ways and so forth will all factor into the the aesthetic of the armor.

The "Elven" armor or Heavy elven as Rivendell puts it, kinda looks like Ebony armor.... I'm curious to see the Skyrim ebony armor now.

I really liked the new style in Elvish armor, and I really liked the new shoulder pads, they weren't overly big...